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Re: Hard drive reliability [scottm123] by silica1
Feb 01, 2008 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Feb 01, 2008 6:43 am)

The backup camera is the most appealing feature in the nav package to me.
 
From what I understand, the voice recognition works without needing the nav package to control an iPod (assuming premium package which I definitely want). Voice commands used to control several things until the recent changes to the voice commands .
 
The jukebox feature doesn't seem that appealing since you have to load CDs to add files to the hard drive. I think an iPod is much easier and suports download music which the jukebox does not. The CompactFlash is a great idea but seems to be crippled at 512 files.
 
I've had 4 hard drives fail in the past 2 years so that's why I am paranoid about hard drives. It's a pain to replace them, and I would rather avoid the headache. Flash is much better but is expensive for very large capacity.
 
The idea of cloning is a good idea after the warranty expires. I just wouldn't have to worry about it if I didn't get nav. Too bad the backup camera requires the nav package. At least it doesn't require the Tech package any more.
 
If you could download music from CompactFlash to the hard drive, it would be worth the hassle of the hard drive and likely make me want to upgrade the drive. Unfortunately, that's not the way it was designed.
 
Thanks for the ideas guys.
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Re: Hard drive reliability [silica1] by scottm123
Feb 01, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: silica1 (Feb 01, 2008 7:16 am)

I can understand your concern, given your past experience.
It sounds like you've had some pretty bad luck with drives.
 
I, on the other hand, have had no issues with hard drives, ever. I guess this is how the world stays balanced.
I work for a software company and I personally have more than 10 pcs in my arsenal and boy, do they see a lot of abuse. I've never had an issue with hard drive failure. At home, I have 3 pcs, 2 laptops and a new 24" iMac (my new love) and again... never had an issue. I guess with all these drives around me, if they were failing, I'd have concerns too.
 
I'm not 100% sure on the voice commands for the ipod integration, but I'm pretty sure on this. The Premium pack will give you the ipod integration. It will also give you hands-free telephone, but I don't think any voice commands are included.
To get voice commands, which cover navi, climate control and audio functions, you need to upgrade to the Navi package.
Check on this.... it sounds like you're hoping for the ipod integration to include voice commands, and I don't think it will without the addition of the Nav pack.
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Bose Studio on Wheels upgrade?? by 2007g35x
Feb 01, 2008 (8:31 am)
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hi all.
 
I hate the Bose Studio On Wheels audio system in my '07 G35X (although someone told me it is not the Bose speakers but the Clarion Head Unit - with GPS; Voice Activation; stereo, etc. Crutchfield has not 'reviewed' my car so they cannot help.
 
Has anyone upgraded this '07 G35X Studio on Wheels system to a better system (either head unit or speakers)? If yes, what did you do to make it sound better? Thank you.
 
Ken
kenengelmanhotmail.com
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Re: Hard drive reliability [adamr001] by jebell
Feb 01, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: adamr001 (Feb 01, 2008 6:35 am)

I also love the back-up camera but I have a question. Do the green/amber/red lines highlight when an object is within that distance or do I just know when an object is in those colored areas the distance to impact?
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Re: Hard drive reliability [jebell] by scottm123
Feb 01, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: jebell (Feb 01, 2008 9:47 am)

They don't highlight, they just help to gauge how far away you are.
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Re: Hard drive reliability [scottm123] by silica1
Feb 01, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: scottm123 (Feb 01, 2008 8:12 am)

Hmmm, I thought I saw something in the manual that voive commands were partially supported without the Nav package. After looking at the manual again, it doesn't seem that way. I remember voice commands being listed under the nav package, but thought it was just for the new features that came with nav. I'm not sure how I confused myself, but it appears that voice commands are only with the nav package. So, that's one more benefit of the nav package.
 
As for the hard drive failures, you are very fortunate to never have one fail. If you replace your equipment within 3-4 years you will probably avoid it. The worst problem I've had is with my wife's laptop. The hard drive only lasts about a year to 18 months. She's on her third. I really don't think she is abusing it especially on the second drive. I've switched brands each time so maybe there is something odd about the hard drive controller in that laptop.
 
I've also had two drives go out in my two TiVos. The series 2 died after about 7 years which is to be expected since it runs all of the time. My new series 3 died after 9 months and had to be sent back for warranty replacement. This one really made me nervous. It shouldn't have failed that early. Hopefully, it was just an odd occurrence.
 
I've had co-workers with laptop drive failures and seen servers with hard drive failures. Laptops seem to be the worst especially if someone is walking around with the drive running (asking for trouble).
 
When I take these experiences and then consider the bumpy back road that I use for part of my commute and about a 10 year ownership period, it makes me wonder. At least the automotive drives are ruggedized which I didn't understand before. How tough they really are, I don't know. They should be a lot better than a PC. Also, a car doesn't run all day long so the operation time will be less compared to a PC which should help. It would just be nice if it were flash memory instead, but then I'd have to pay even more for the nav package.
 
Ruggedized seems to be the key concept here. I'll just need to play with the features in person and see whether it's worth the extra money.
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Re: Hard drive reliability [silica1] by scottm123
Feb 01, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: silica1 (Feb 01, 2008 10:33 am)

Geez... Now I'm knocking on wood!
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Re: Hard drive reliability [silica1] by adamr001
Feb 01, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: silica1 (Feb 01, 2008 10:33 am)

*laugh*
 
Well, I've been in the IT world professionally since 1988. I've seen dozens and dozens of hard drives go. Sometimes it just happens. Sometimes it's out of the box, sometimes you get to hear it or feel it coming for days or even weeks.
 
You're perfectly reasonable being skeptical of the hard drive longevity, especially in an environment like a car. There are also certain brands of drives that are known as likely failure drives. IBM had a line of HDDs called "Deskstar" that those of us in the biz called "Deathstar" because they always seemed to go bad inside the first year. Quantum had a line of high speed server drives called "Fireball" which, while being some of the very first 10,000 RPM drives, were aptly named not because of speed but because they'd routinely overheat and the bearings would go out. Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. *shudder* I can still hear that noise.
 
As to the on/off issue, that's honestly a double edged sword. Ask most IT guys and you'll likely find that drives (especially server drives) tend to fail after there has been a power event or other reason to reboot / restart the hardware. I've seen it happen personally. In fact, I don't usually turn off my own PCs at home unless I have too.
 
So I'm not trying to go back on what I said earlier, but just trying to point out that there are always risks. Even NVRAM can go bad. A simple bit of static electricity and you can wipe the whole thing out or maybe someone shorts something in the audio system accidentally one day... Just don't worry too much, especially not since there's a relatively inexpensive backup to be had. It's further mitigated by the nature / style / warranty on the drives and the vehicle. As I said earlier as well, a relatively small investment ($130) and some free drive-cloning software from Sourceforge and you're protected in the post-warranty phase of ownership.
 
That's my $0.02 anyway.
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Re: Hard drive reliability [silica1] by adamr001
Feb 01, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: silica1 (Feb 01, 2008 10:33 am)

Oh and one more thing... slightly OT... I backup my TiVO drives regularly too. I hate having to retrain the TiVO!
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Re: Hard drive reliability [adamr001] by scottm123
Feb 01, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: adamr001 (Feb 01, 2008 12:25 pm)

I know hard drives go and I also admit to being one of the lucky ones who hasn't suffered the fate of a lost drive.
I keep backups of everything just in case, cause it can happen. In fact, I'm due! (lol)
 
I guess my final thought on this is that the Navi package, especially now that it includes the backup camera, is worth the price, IMHO.
The car has a great warranty and even if the drive goes after the fact, it's a small financial smack to the wallet... nothing to cancel the kid's college dreams over.
 
Buy the car, get the Navi and hope for the best.
 

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