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Re: Warranty costs [gsemike] by 1487
Sep 04, 2007 (8:04 am)

Replying to: gsemike (Sep 04, 2007 6:28 am)

"No. If you don't know what it means for a car to run beautifully, then you're not really in a position to offer commentary on cars. "
 
actually I disagree. I have been posting on Edmunds/carspace for about 9 years- even before I owned a car. Secondly I have attended numerous manufacturer/magazine events and have driven everything from a Malibu to an LS400. I think I am well qualified to comment on cars and I suspect I have driven more vehicles than you have.
 
I have no need to "lower the bar" because GM is making competitive vehicles. If you drive a current model you may agree. If you drive 6 year old beat up used SUVs you may not agree.
 
"A 10 year old car that runs beautifully starts easily, idles smoothly, accelerates without hesitation, shifts crisply, takes bumps with groans and creeks and drives straight without constant corrections or too much play in the steering."
 
The '98 Intrigue does all of that. Its been maintained and it works fine. My parents' old Chevy idled smoothly when it was 12 years old. My '92 Suburu? not quite, the revs would often jump at idle or the car would mysteriously idle 500rmp higher for no reason when you started the car only to lower after a minute.
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Re: The topic is [bumpy] by 1487
Sep 04, 2007 (8:07 am)

Replying to: bumpy (Sep 04, 2007 8:01 am)

"If GM did design that noise out of the Lambdas and other clean-sheet vehicles, that would be progress of the good kind, and gets rid of one more barrier to convincing import buyers to consider their vehicles. '
 
Never noticed the noise on ANY of the GM vehicles I drove at autoshow in motion 3 years ago or any of the cadillacs I drove at cadillac events. My car doesnt do it either. Sorry, but this issue seems to be nonextistent on modern GM models. furthermore this issue doesnt seem to come up in reviews of GM products, even negative reviews. Do you really think all GM cars have groaning brakes from the factory?
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break time by steve_ HOST
Sep 04, 2007 (8:13 am)
Seems like we haven't been discussing why GM is on the offensive for some time now and there's plenty of discussions here to address M&R questions like brake squealing or creaks. So we're going to take a breather in here.

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