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7057 messages, Last post on Sep 04, 2007 at 8:13 AM
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 GM is on the offensive. The factory for Enclave, Outlook, and Acadia is running 24 hours a day at full production. gsemike says: > If you don't know what it means for a car to run beautifully, then you're not really in a position to offer commentary on cars. My qualification is that I've owned 9 GMs and had excellent service from each, so don't impeach my qualifications to be allowed to post here. My bar is set high, higher than the minimialization products I test drove from foreign brands in 87, 89, 93, 98, 03. On top of that my 98 and 03 have NO creaks and groans. They both drive straight and don't have play in the steering. Talk about a low expectation level--if creaks and groans are okay. In that case I should have bought the hard seats and creaks and rattles in the 03 Accord I test drove!!! gsemike says: >A 10 year old car that runs beautifully starts easily, idles smoothly, accelerates without hesitation, shifts crisply, takes bumps with groans and creeks... 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 04, 2007 6:45 am) While the factories for Silverado and Sierra production are cutting back production and laying off excess personnel. Robbing Peter to pay Paul? How do you keep the brakes from groaning when you let off the pedal? I've never been in a GM anything that didn't make that awful noise. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 04, 2007 7:02 am) Again, are you trying to say that there's something wrong with all GM cars and their brakes? I can take you in my 03 and there's no groan, and there never has been. I can take you in my 98 and there's no groan. Maybe a REpairs and Problems discussion topic can help you isolate the cause there. The news story this morning was that GM is selling those car as fast as they can make them.
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 04, 2007 7:02 am) I have sat in a Pontiac Vibe 2002 and in a 07 Outlook. No funny sounds coming from the brakes. Granted, the Vibe is a joint-venture with Toyota, but not the Outlook. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 04, 2007 7:08 am) Not wrong, since the brakes work, just disconcerting. I've heard it in Cadillacs, Chevrolets, and everything in between. Something about the way GM designed their brake systems produced a noise that sounds like a zombie moan when the brake pedal is released from a full stop. I've never heard anything like it from other makes. |
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Replying to: m1miata (Sep 03, 2007 8:50 pm) Race Starter at Bell Isle in Detroit last Sunday at IRL Indy race said: "Ladies and Gentlemen, start your 'Honda' Engines". GM not active in Indy 500 type racing but is present in NHRA. A Chevy Cobalt (with rear wheel drive) won Pro Stock Class at NHRA Nationals on Labor Day. Guess that will translate into extra Cobalt sales this week at Chevy dealers across US. These Pro Stock cars go 200 MPH in quarter mile. Chevy must build good engines for Cobalt. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 04, 2007 7:24 am) How is that relevant to the "GM Is on the Offensive" topic?
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 03, 2007 4:25 pm) Uh, no. The testers never said that the previous-generation model was flawed in this regard. They merely noted that the new model is improved in this regard. Note that they said that their ears measured a "slight reduction in tire hum and bump-thuds." A "slight reduction" hardly sounds earth-shaking. Just because Honda improved the Accord's ride for the new generation model does not mean that this was a fault of the previous generation. |
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