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Replying to: gsemike (Sep 03, 2007 5:33 am) "That's probably the Ford DNA creeping in. Mazda's have never been known to have stellar reliabiltiy." Why does everybody diss Mazda for being associated with Ford its gets so old after awhile. Mazda reliability is ok but not as good as Honda or Toyota. Its not like Mazda's reliability is as bad as VW's. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 03, 2007 2:36 pm) I know but the Tundra is only one vehicle not the whole entire Toyota line-up.
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Replying to: carguy58 (Sep 03, 2007 2:44 pm) Every Toyota has incentives, in my area thats all they advertise at Toyota dealerships. The SUVs and Sienna are offering at least $4k off MSRP. Its not just GM folks.
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Replying to: gsemike (Sep 03, 2007 9:15 am) why in the world would you base your opinions of GM on a 6 year old truck that was actually designed in the early 90s? I dont get it. You want to see GM "great" again? That is the surprise statement of the year. When was Gm ever great in anything but marketshare and hp? GM is making better vehicles than EVER. Read Karl's blog on the new CTS. Its self explanatory.
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Replying to: m1miata (Sep 03, 2007 10:41 am) As it has been explained many, many, many times before all fleet salesa re not bad. goverment and corporate fleet sales are OK, rental sales are not good. The Impala is like America's default car for a lot of applications. It doesnt mean its a bad car as you continue to apply. If the camry is more reliable, has better resale and is an all around better car and it made in the USA why doesnt it replace the Impala as a fleet car? Also, if GM vehicles are so unreliable how to Impala police cars manage to rack up hundreds of thousands of miles and stay on the road? YOu say fleet sales are a sign that car is about to be redone soon but the Fusion and Sonata have substantial fleet sales and are relatively new. I'm sure same applies to Sebring and Avenger. ALso, camry fleet sales are probably higher than ever before and the car is only 1.5 years old. Care to explain? Just trying to be helpful.
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 03, 2007 2:55 pm) The Sienna is a declining segement I mean mini-van sales are way down right? I really don;t notice Toyota advertising heavy incentives in NJ. I mean Toyota;s are really really popular here. Maybe in NE where you live in Toyota's aren;t as popular as they are in NJ I don;t know.
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Replying to: carguy58 (Sep 03, 2007 2:36 pm) I can understand if you have a beef with Toyota ok but Honda no." I dont have a beef with Honda at all although I doubt I will ever own one. I have a beef with people putting Honda on a pedastal. Everything that the press tells you is exclusive to Honda is being done by the competition. There are TONS of good cars on the road and Honda is just one company making some of those cars. You can talk about engines, trannies, technology, etc. and on all fronts Honda is just another competitor and not the dominant engineering force that people make them oout to be, Calling the Accord a benchmark after 5 years is something the press is fond of doing but the facts dont bear that out. The car is very nice and will serve the average family well but its not benchmark. not in features, mileage, styling or pricing. In fact its one of the more expensive cars in the class even though it offers less than the competition. I like the TL just fine and its a good value. |
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Replying to: carguy58 (Sep 03, 2007 3:17 pm) I live in PA right next to Jersey. If you have access, check out the auto section in the Inquirer one day. I have a hard time believing you have to pay close to MSRP in Jersey. They are selling Toyota SUVS for $6k off MSRP per the ads. Toyota is just another car company when it comes to selling the deal as opposed to the car.
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