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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 9:34 am) Shouldn't Honda read your post and then find out GM's interest rate and then charge 4% over it for all Honda loans? GM is at 7% so Honda should be worth 11%. As cars are made better and better, there is only a finite amount of repair dollars that can be saved with further improvement. In the case of my unreliable 98 astro, it is $7-800 lifetime. As gas gets more and more expensive, it becomes unpredictable whether 150k miles in a Tundra will cost $37,000 or $68,000 to fuel up. I don't see the relevance of so much concentration on the finite side. Repairs are only a few percent of gas.
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Replying to: m1miata (Aug 05, 2007 6:08 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Aug 05, 2007 6:42 pm)  I would consider challenging the odds as too risky, as results can be shocking! Loren |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Aug 05, 2007 6:54 pm) So you are saying all the parts to build the USA built engine, and the transmissions and seats and all came from abroad? And the total sum paid to workers here at the suppliers and assembly account for just $500 per car? Amazing. Don't believe it. You have got me somewhat curious though about the Honda Supplier Network USA, I guess you could call it. I see the air conditioning is from Torrence, CA, but says Honda USA. Why would they ship over so many parts, then funnel them though their network supplies, then onward to build the car? Wouldn't that ultimately cost them more? Quality control perhaps -- maybe I could see some things, like the engine. If cost is the factor, why then not Mexico to build the parts? I still don't see how this exports all the dollars from the sale of the cars here in USA. Let's assume you are 100% correct in this matter. Are you then suggesting that people in say Europe or Australia should not buy a GM vehicle since some of the money ultimately goes to USA GM? And in Mexico or Brazil, should all the money made stay within their borders? What I am trying to say is that in a World market place, all companies are going to seek out ways to sell around the globe, and bring whatever monies they can home. I don't think Honda is bringing it all home, any more than GM is brining all the money on home from say Opel division. Loren |
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 8:49 am) '75 Buick Apollo: Tranny shifter cable, thats it '77 Electra: Pwr seat motor and starter. Owned for 9 yrs, got slammed by a '69 skylark, put a new nose on it and ran it for 2 more yrs. Sold it for $1000 and new owner ran it until 1998. '86 S-10: Blown head gasket replaced under warranty '88 Regal: Rear calipers replaced 3 times in 14 yrs rebuild instrument panel (warr.) fuel pump (warr) '94 Safari: Flawless '96 SL-2: Flawless '98 Jimmy: Rear glass latch '91 K 2500 Fuel tank and shock bracket at 120k starter at 110k alternator at 100k '99 PK Av ultra: mass air fl. sensor at 85k broken door handle, and rotors '04 Ranier: Steering rack repl under warr (didn't fail, tsb for vibration) flasher, and cosmetics, All under warranty. Gee, that's ONE LESS TRANNY than you. I didn't even mention my father's '88 pk ave which ran flawlessly from purchase in 1990 w/ 16k until we replaced the alternator 100k and steering rack 150k. My aunt drives it now.
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Replying to: m1miata (Aug 05, 2007 6:22 pm) Most places in the US do not have roads based on foot paths. High beltline is pretty much the standard now on all new vehicles.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Aug 03, 2007 11:55 am) you must not read the magazine. They dont like much that GM makes aside from the vette and CTS-V. When they praise a GM product, its pretty significant in my book because it doesnt happen too often.
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Replying to: m1miata (Aug 04, 2007 8:58 am) wrong again, saturn buyers typically dont look at other GM brands. Most people who are considering the Aura would not buy a Malibu. Its a simple concept, but you seem to have trouble grasping it for some reason. The Malibu isnt going to do much to affect Aura sales. Same way the Equinox isnt going to hurt sales of the 2008 Vue.
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Replying to: vodka (Aug 03, 2007 10:45 pm) I don't understand why would Saturn price their cars higher than the Accord and Camry when the the Camry and Accord are the benchmarks when it comes to midsize sedans. It would be one thing if the Aura was a huge hit, which it isn't. The Aura is a remarkable step forward for GM but by no means does it blow away the competition. Merely by bringing up the family plans aren't you admitting that the Aura is priced too high and not a good buy at that price that the general public pays for one? |
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