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Re: Very happy with Buick... [andres3]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 9:46 am)
I would assume immediate torque steer could be caused by having such a down shift. A fourth to first, would not be a good thing.  Sort of like braking up front, with only one brake. Not a good thing.
Loren
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [sls002]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Aug 05, 2007 9:57 am)
The CTS, has a couple of issues about it in the first year, but seems to be holding up pretty good over time for the years of build after the initial launch. Now is there any data, other than a GTO, to go by when considering these new RWD Aussie cars? The GTO was not perfect. Will they get it right before launch time for Camaro, Impala and Pontiacs?
Loren
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [andres3]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 10:32 am)
Oh dang, I meant misery. See, I best get something to eat now, my brain is not firing off right, and the words are becoming a mystery, and thus a misery!
 Loren
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- #5306 of 7057
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [andres3]
by sls002
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Aug 05, 2007 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 10:32 am)
True, the accident was the drivers fault. However, before the vehicle was totaled, the engine needed rebuilt at 70,000 miles due to Honda's poor engineering.
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [m1miata]
by sls002
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Aug 05, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Aug 05, 2007 10:43 am)
The GTO was a performance car. The G8 will offer a V6, which might be the best choice, as well as the V8. The V8 won't be tuned quite like the GTO's. The GTO was not a bad car, but was not something many wanted. I don't thing the G8 is something I want either, but a wagon version might have been another matter.
I think that the Impala and other RWD sedans will be based on the Camaro platform, and not imported from Aussieland.
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- #5308 of 7057
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [sls002]
by 62vetteefp
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Aug 05, 2007 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Aug 05, 2007 12:21 pm)
All the same platform. Most of the engineering done down under and all built in Oshawa.
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- #5309 of 7057
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Did they weigh the 1100 dest and assy cost against tarriffs?
by dave8697
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Aug 05, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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A honda built in the new Civic plant in Greensburg Indiana will cut the imported quantity by a third. $500 of the total content will be what us americans are paid to make the entire car. It sells for $18200 if it has auto and PW. Take out the 500 assembly, 600 dest charge, and 1000 dealer profit and you end up with $16,100 to account for. Most of that goes to Japan. Let me assure you that no americans are engineering the civic. If they were, it wouldn't have a rubber timing belt.
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Re: GM has NO idea about what it's all about !! [sls002]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Aug 05, 2007 12:09 pm)
If the engine has poor engineering, wouldn't a lot more have met an early demise. Perhaps it is a matter of this particular engine meeting an premature death. Lots of things could have happened. If the design is wrong, many others would have shown the same symptoms. Most Civics go on to live a good long life of 200K to 300K miles. Not every example will however.
Loren
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Re: Did they weigh the 1100 dest and assy cost against tarriffs? [dave8697]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Aug 05, 2007 5:52 pm)
That can not be right. Are you saying they are building the car here, made of all imported parts from Japan? As for engineering, what does a timing belt have to do with anything as to the country or people of whom designed the auto?
My Accord was built in Ohio, the engine built in USA, as well as most of the parts. The car I traded in was a Chrysler PT, but was made in Mexico. Very well screwed together, I may add. Mexicans did a very good job at that plant. Ford is also having success with the Fusion made in Mexico. The Astra is coming to America, made in Germany, I guess. Opel has been owned by GM since before WWII. World market for cars, means investments around the globe. My first car was an Opel by GM, and now I have a Honda. Doesn't mean the next car may not be something made in USA, or a GM made in Mexico or Germany -- heck Australia. I do hope the UAW negotiations work out so it is still possible for GM and the other Big Two to still make a lot of what they sell in USA. And hopefully our government will start to do what is in the best interest of its citizens and show push for more production of many products once again in USA. Let's start building our infrastructure up to modern standards, or at the least the original standards, and stop wasting our money in other countries.
Loren
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Re: ***** what about size [62vetteefp]
by m1miata
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Aug 05, 2007 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 05, 2007 4:56 pm)
Does the Camaro seem a bit wide at say 79" or close to that figure? Seems like the Impala, Camaro and the rest if that wide have certain limits, as some older cities, like where I live date back to Mission days of foot traffic and thus many fairly narrow streets. Seems to me some of those parking spaces are all so narrow. This is a real issue for some people. I consider 74" as a pretty wide car, and don't see a Pony car as any wider. Actually the New Mustang seems larger or puffier. I have watched it slowly expand, like my waistline, over the years. I fully understand the benefits of a wider Impala, like the Crown Vic, as they seat people in the rear seat in more comfort, but we are in this new era of crowded streets, parking spaces, and high gas prices. Wouldn't smaller and lighter be the way for gas mileage and a new crowded environment? Or is this the transition from those SUV beast sized cars, and thus those owners would only appreciate the super sized?
Wonder if the Impala and Pontiacs get the high beltline , chop top look too?
Curious as a cat,
Loren
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