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Replying to: 1487 (Aug 02, 2007 9:25 am) Glad to know GM is coming up with safe 4 cyl models. I will test-drive! I am shopping for a 4 cyl midsize sedan to replace my second car which is a Mazda Protege (so far Accord is on top of my shopping list, and I am considering Altima, Sonata and Mazda6/ Fusion as well; and if gas price hits $4, I will consider Camry Hybrid as well). Hope Malibu will give me a compelling reason to not go for Accord. I will search Edmunds and other sites/ forums for safety ratings, fuel efficiency and fleet sales info. While test-driving, I will be looking for light-weight feeling, easy-handling, responsive-brakes and a clean interior with simple controls for everything including stereo. I don't expect Malibu to have Accord's resale value - so, I expect GM to give me a lower APR. I own an Accord now and pay 4.9% APR to Honda for 5 year loan. So, I will be looking for 2.9% or less on 5 year. It's time to see a Chevy dealer again (not all of whom are bad, while some are horrible).
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Aug 01, 2007 12:52 pm) How about my entire (directly related) families vehicle history (mainly my parents and older brother)? 1982 or so Honda Accord (flawless until totalled in rear-end impact collision at high speed; car still ran and was driveable for weeks, we think the insurance company made out like bandits fraudulantly, and fixed the car to sell it for way more money than they gave my parents). No transmission problems. 1980 or so Audi something or other wagon (before Audi became "luxury." All kinds of problems, but no drive train issues. 1995 Camry - no problems with the drivetrain, just needed some new motor mounts at around 90K and 8 years of age. Otherwise, flawless. 1993 or 94 Toyota 4Runner - flawless 2001 Camry - flawless T100 - flawless Tundra - flawless My Accord from '03 had a few very minor cosmetic issues, a powerseat hiccup, and tranny replacement (covered under warranty after warranty expired). My wife's '92 Civic, '05 Civic, and '07 Civic have been flawless in their drivetrains, '07 in for driver power window replacement (strange huh?). My '06 Audi A3 has been flawless mechanically and electrically. Fantastic. Now onto the Dodge. Failed transmission at about 60K, not covered under warranty, Dodge didn't/wouldn't/hasn't paid for it to date. Failed head gaskets on engine happened around 45-50K miles, no one at Dodge stepped up to pay for that either. I could list 20 other problems the vehicle had in the first 65,000 miles easy. Sounds like to me... The domestics may have more than 3 times as many failed trannies per mile than the imports...... but I know you'll counter with "well, you got the one bad domestic." Funny how CR warned us the domestic would be bad, and so did my father..... the warnings came true.... coincidence....I think not.
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 8:49 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Aug 02, 2007 10:58 am)
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Replying to: chetj (Aug 05, 2007 9:26 am) 1) Any repairs prior to 6 years or 100K miles (I'll pay for recommended maintenance at scheduled intervals; you pay the rest). 2) The loss in gas mileage vs. a comparable Honda/Toyota with comparable power. 3) The added true cost to own, due to terrible resale and #2 above. 4) The costs of rental vehicles while the domestic is in the shop all of the time. Add in mileage/gas costs for going to and from the shop. Add in $50/hour for my wasted time dealing with the shops and driving time and tow trucks. If any of you domestic crusaders out there will do all of the above (under written contract), I'll buy myself a used $10,000 or so domestic car soon.
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 9:26 am) 
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 05, 2007 9:34 am)
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Replying to: jcgable (Aug 02, 2007 12:17 pm) Sounds like pure driver error to me. If anything, down shifting will slow you down?
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Replying to: sls002 (Aug 05, 2007 9:38 am)
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