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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 03, 2007 7:47 am) That's not too surprising, since Buick didn't have much in the way of SUVs before now. So what does get traded in on an Enclave?
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 03, 2007 8:39 am) ??? Rendevouz, Rainier, Terazza. Out of 5 models available at Buick last year 3 were SUV/CUV/Minivan people haulers. And while not huge sellers together they sold 96,000 units in '05 and 71,000 in '06 (US). Compare this to Lexus sales of 140,000 units in '06 with 3 models. So not exactly peanuts. Enclave should be able to sell close to 70,000 units per year. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 03, 2007 5:09 am) Read an article about the Aura, somewhere, and they talked about the XE being a softer ride than the XR. I thought they used the same suspension for both models. Was this something imagined - assumed? I have driven both, but not on the same day. The XR has the kick-in-the-pants power and the paddle shift, which may be good for down shifts on tighter turns. Not sure what is gained, if anything, trying to shift through all the gears from a launch. Loren |
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 03, 2007 6:43 am) furthermore, in last years new car issue for Automobile they said the Aura was better looking and more engaging to drive than CAmry or Accord. Look it up for yourself. I assure you I am not misinformed. Next you will be telling me Autoweek didnt really rank the Aura over the Camry in their comparison. "As opposed to viewing, say, an Aura as better than an Accord because you say so? " No, Automobile and Motorweek (best family sedan was Aura) say so though. Accord V6 and Aura XR have never been directly compared. Also Autoweek compared Aura to camry (which is newer and better than Accord) and chose the lowly Saturn. No, dont take my word for it. In case you have missed it, I usually have some back up for my statements here. Its something you might want to look into. "I'm such an import fanboy that there is Ford Focus, built in Wayne, Michigan, by the Ford Motor Company, parked in our driveway" company car? Trade it in for a Civic, trust me. "And most of the losses are driven by their cars. If the truck market tanks, GM is toast in the U.S. " is that supposed to hurt my feelings? I dont get your point with these one liners telling me how close GM is to going under. COmmon sense tells us that GM would prefer if gas werent $3 a gallon and SUV sales werent declining. Trucks cost more and EVERYONE would rather sell more expensive vehicles than cheaper ones. This is why Toyota is spending $100M advertising the gas guzzling Tundra but spends next to nothing on the Prius. How many Prius ads have you seen? Ever thought about why that was? "That they make better cars and make money while doing it? That they stop tantalizing us with great show cars and then expect us to buy the milquetoast products in the showrooms? That they stop saying that the exciting new products that will save GM are just around the corner? " you have once again shown your bias and that you are not going to give GM any credit no matter what. Yes, GM has never turned a concept into reality- except for SRX, XLR, Solstice, SSR, H3, etc. You are so right! yes, Gm's actual vehicles pale in comparison to the exciting models offered by Toyota and Hyundai. The C6, Solstice GXP, V series cadillacs, Escalade, H3, XLR, TB SS etc. are all dull vehicles. Why cant GM make the really exciting stuff like the Asian automakers? I see the light! Toyota= exciting styling and great performance while GM=milquetoast models that put you to sleep. Yes the good product is "around the corner" because nothing good is for sale now. The lambdas, Vette, XLR, CTS-V, Vue, aura, STS, kappa roadsters, SRX, GMT900s, etc. are not on sale now. We are still waiting for them to arrive. When oh when will those competitive cars show up? And the CTS and Malibu are WAY down the road as well. The nerve of GM with their smoke and mirrors! each post reduces your credibility even further. Bottom line, you dont like GM and never will and have no intentions of buying anything they make regardless of merit. Your arguments would make much more sense if this was 2002 instead of 2007. Even haters like C&D are acknowledging GM's progress- check out their review of the CTS for proof.
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 03, 2007 7:58 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Aug 03, 2007 11:12 am) C and D is not a hater. Latest issue of Road and Track is complimentary to CTS and Enclave.
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Aug 03, 2007 11:55 am) |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 03, 2007 7:49 am) |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 03, 2007 9:38 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Aug 03, 2007 6:43 am) If GM's truck sales don't tank soon, their plans to continue reviving their car business might be too successful and Camcord won't be the only choice. That will suck. Everyone should drive a Camcord and be sending $500 a month to Japan.
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