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GM Is on The Offensive. Will it work? by torque_r
Feb 16, 2007 (10:17 pm)
Alright. Yet another discussion dedicated for GM as a whole. So folks let's keep personal comments out of here and talk about GM cars.
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GM buying Chrysler. by torque_r
Feb 16, 2007 (10:19 pm)
It seems it is true and GM is indeed in negotiations to take over Chrysler. Do they know what they are doing or has GM gone mad?
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Re: GM buying Chrysler. [torque_r] by rockylee
Feb 17, 2007 (6:12 am)

Replying to: torque_r (Feb 16, 2007 10:19 pm)

A little bit of both I suppose. If Rick Wagoner, can turn around that ship and make Chrysler Corp part of GM, I say do it. I can see why GM, might want to do this as Plekto, has convinced me further. I know it's risky but like this forum title says GM, needs to be playing offense and not defense like they have been doing for years. I see room for cars like the Caliber, Sebring, Avenger, and perhaps maybe a Intrepid. How bout a refined Neon ? How bout a 300C built on a Holden Statesman platform ? How bout drop that 3.6 V6 Twin-Turbo engine in a car and make a modern day Dodge Stealth with 4WS/AWD to take on the Skyline, WRX STI, and EVO-X crowd ???????
 
The bottom line is GM, needs more product and if they make a little money here and a little money there the next thing you know you have enough money you can build next a Scrooge McDuck money bin.
 
Rocky
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Re: GM buying Chrysler. [rockylee] by lokki
Feb 17, 2007 (6:43 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 17, 2007 6:12 am)

Alright. Yet another discussion dedicated for GM .....
 
'Nuff Said.
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Remember by pf_flyer HOST
Feb 17, 2007 (6:49 am)
There's a question asked in the title of the subject here. That means there are probably going to be answers that you might disagree with. Let's avoid turning this into domestics vs imports and keep away from the personal comments and we should be fine.
 
If you feel the need to zing someone, please don't.
 
Carry on!
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Re: GM Is on The Offensive. Will it work? [torque_r] by rockylee
Feb 17, 2007 (7:09 am)

Replying to: torque_r (Feb 16, 2007 10:17 pm)

I guess we will see by the sales numbers. They need to put some new life in Saab, which is coming over the next few years. Hummer needs to grow a bit and could use a hybrid engine to help fuel economy numbers. They also could use a new interior for the H2. Buick, needs to move up market a bit and allow Saturn and Pontiac breathing room to fill in where Buick was. Saab, needs to be like Volvo, but with a bit more Euro performance. I'd almost copy the lines out of the S80 and put them in the 9-5.
 
Saturn is doing great. Chevrolet, looks like it's doing good except for the Cobalt needs to be re done. Cadillac, looks like it's headed in the right direction and so does GMC. I'd like to see a lil' bit more changes though between Chevrolet and GMC in the truck department.
 
Rocky
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Re: GM buying Chrysler. [torque_r] by bumpy
Feb 17, 2007 (7:13 am)

Replying to: torque_r (Feb 16, 2007 10:19 pm)

I vote for batspit insane. Wreck of the Penn Central all over again.
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GM buying Chrysler by imidazol97
Feb 17, 2007 (7:41 am)
This is really bothering me. What's in it for GM? Do they get to break union contracts and operate Chrysler plants much more cheaply? Do they gain suppliers conveniently located for JIT delivery to plants? Do they block something from one of the foreign brands.
 
I'll take the last as the most likely.
 
However I see it as another Chrysler buys Daimler, or SBC buys ATT and ends up using ATT's name, or many other funny mergers that have occured.
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Re: GM buying Chrysler [imidazol97] by rockylee
Feb 17, 2007 (7:58 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 17, 2007 7:41 am)

imidazol97,
 
They don't get to break union contracts, Many of the same suppliers like Johnson Controls, Gentex, Donnelly, etc that supply GM, also supply Chrysler. Some like Bosch could lose or gain business from GM. Delphi, now could lose more or gain some or even a lot. Yes they do block a foreign company from gaining access to the North American market and yes they do have the priviledge of puting those lossed sales to Chrysler in their column. To the best of my knowledge Chrysler, has a lot of product that can be launched over the next year or so. So if GM, is able to buy up Chrysler, they will get to enjoy these technology's, platforms, etc for use on both car company's.
 
I'll take the last as the most likely.
 
And you could probably be correct. This is why GM, is on the offensive.
 
However I see it as another Chrysler buys Daimler, or SBC buys ATT and ends up using ATT's name, or many other funny mergers that have occured.
 
What's wrong with Chrysler being under the General Motors emblem ??? Hell at least it would be under american control instead of handing it to a foreign company. Would you really want Chrysler, to be under the China'a control ?????
 
Rocky
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Re: GM buying Chrysler [rockylee] by imidazol97
Feb 17, 2007 (8:15 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 17, 2007 7:58 am)

Could end up with Chrysler emblem on GM products... think SBC and ATT, now called ATT.

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