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Isuzu Axiom Transmission Questions

48 messages,  Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 2:56 AM

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Re: Transmission Problems(I Think) [deron1] by jerryp49
Jun 07, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: deron1 (Jun 07, 2009 5:27 am)

All I could suggest is to inspect for any signs of a fluid leak. You still could be low and since the Axiom has no dip stick to check the level of the Trani fluid, it might be best to have the dealer or a trusted shop check the fluid level and condition. That's the first place to begin any diagnosis.
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transmission filter by jjj12
Jun 26, 2009 (8:51 pm)
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can i change my transmission filter myself? i know that is a closed system, but am i able to add transmission fluid back into the system after i change the filter. i had the fluid changed at a quick lube place about 10,000 miles ago. when they did it the hooked up some hose and pumped the old out and the new in?
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Re: transmission filter [jjj12] by cptsesso
Jun 29, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: jjj12 (Jun 26, 2009 8:51 pm)

I have all of my transmission servicing done at a local AAMCO shop. It is nice because the lead mech there worked a long time for Isuzu before the local dealership closed. He suggested, as I have posted here in the past, to change the fluid every 30k miles and do the filter every 60k miles. He said if you do it his way and do not follow Isuzu's transmission schedule, you will more than likely never have any transmission problems.
 
Anyway, I know you can buy a filter kit and change it yourself but it is a messy process and you have to know how to exactly refill the transmission correctly since it is a sealed unit (no dipstick to check the fluid level).
#42 of 48
Checking/Checking Axiom Transmission Fluid (from the Isuzu Service Manual) by walk_the_walk2
Jul 02, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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There are some definite tricks to this and there is no mention of a filter at all. Plus, there are warnings about overfilling, or checking the fluid level with the engine off. So, be careful if you are going to do this yourself. Also, they suggest replacing the gaskets on the two plugs (drain and overfill screws) when you do the fluid changeout, which probably never happens in the real world at your local JerkyLube.
 
Here is the manual excerpt. If you need the image, too, let me know and i can post in online and link to it.
 
********************
 
From Page 7A-10:
 
Checking Transmission Fluid Level and Condition
 
Checking fluid level and condition (color and odor) at
regular intervals will provide early diagnosis information
about the transmission. This information may be used to
correct a condition that, if not detected early, could result
in major transmission repairs.
 
IMPORTANT: When new, automatic transmission fluid
is red in color. As the vehicle is driven, the transmission
fluid will begin to look darker in color. The color may
eventually appear light brown.
 
A dark brown color with burnt odor may indicate
excessive fluid deterioration and signal a need for fluid
change.
 
Fluid Level
 
When adding or changing fluid, use only DEXRON )–III.
Refer to Maintenance and Lubrication in General
Information section for maintenance information and
servicing interval.
 
CAUTION: DO NOT OVERFILL.
 
Overfilling will cause foaming, loss of fluid, abnormal
shifting and possible damage to the transmission.
 
1. Park the vehicle on level ground and apply the parking
brake firmly.
 
2. Check fluid level with engine running at idle.
 
NOTE: Be sure that transmission fluid temperature is
below 30 deg C (86 deg F).
 
3. Move the selector lever through all gear ranges.
 
4. Move the selector lever to “Park”.
 
5. Let engine idle for 3 minutes and open the overfill
screw (1).
 
6. Add released transmission fluid until it flows out over
the overfill screw opening.
 
7. Let engine idle until a fluid temperature between 32 deg C
(90 deg F) and 57 deg C (135 deg F) is reached, then close the
overfill screw (1). Torque: 38 N•m (28 lb ft)
 
NOTE: To prevent fluid leaks, the overfill screw and oil
drain screws gasket must be replaced each time these
screws are removed.
 
NOTE: Check transmission fluid temperature with scan
tool.
Minimum fluid level " 57 deg C (135 deg F)
Maximum fluid level " 32 deg C (90 deg F)
242R200001
 
CAUTION: Do not open overfill screw with engine
stopped.
CAUTION: DO NOT CHECK FLUID LEVEL UNDER
THESE CONDITIONS:
 * Immediately after driving at sustained highway
speeds.
 * In heavy city traffic during hot weather.
 * If vehicle is towing a trailer.
 
If the vehicle has been operated under these conditions,
shut the engine off and allow the vehicle to “cool” for thirty
(30) minutes. After the cool down period, restart the
vehicle and continue from step 2 above.
 
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From Page 7A-27:
 
Changing Transmission Fluid
 
There is no need to change the transmission fluid unless
the transmission is used under one or more of the
following heavy duty conditions.
 
A. Repeated short trips
B. Driving on rough roads
C. Driving on dusty roads
D. Towing a trailer
If the vehicle is used under these conditions, change the
fluid every 20,000 miles (32,000 km).
 
1. Place a large drain pan under the oil pan.
2. Remove the transmission oil drain screw (2) and drain
fluid.
3.Tighten drain screw (2).
Torque: 38 N•m (28 lb ft)
4. Remove the transmission overfill screw (1) and fill
transmission through overfill screw opening, using
DEXRON)–III ATF.
 
NOTE: Add transmission fluid until it flows out over the
overfill screw opening.
 
5. Let engine idle until a fluid temperature between 32 deg C
(90 deg F) and 57 deg C (135 deg F) is reached.
6. Add transmission fluid until it flows out over the overfill
screw opening, then close the overfill screw (1).
Torque: 38 N•m (28 lb ft)
 
NOTE: To prevent fluid leaks, the overfill screw and oil
drain screws gasket must be replaced each time these
screws are removed.
 
NOTE: Check transmission fluid temperature with scan
tool.
 
7. Reset “Oil Life Monitor” data by using Tech 2.
Refer to Tech 2 OBD II Connection in Transmission
Control System (4L30-E) section.
 
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This is verbatim from the service manual, less the illustrations. The Service manual is available online for less than $20 in PDF form and is worth every penny.
 
What is odd is that there is no mention of changing any kind of transmission filter. In fact, doing a word search of the PDF file of the manual, I cannot find any instance of "transmission filter" or "transmission fluid filter" or "fluid filter" in the entire 2100 pages of the Service manual, nor does it appear in any of the diagrams either. So, it probably only has a magnet in the bottom of the tranny fluid pan to catch metal flakes, which may be why this transmission is so problematic in the first place.
 
As for me, I recommend using synthetic transmission fluid. Also be sure to check the modulator gasket on the side for any possible leaks, as mine blew out at 38K miles and caused lots of grief.
 
Still, the fluid change is easier than an oil change in theory, but you will need ramps and jackstands, so the vehicle is LEVEL and you can still get under it to work on it.
 
Finally, since there is no dipstick or fill tube, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FILL THIS TRANNY WITH FLUID. I CAN ONLY VISUALIZE A LUCILLE BALL-LIKE DISASTER IF I WERE TO ATTEMPT THIS MYSELF. Please post back if you have attempted this yourself.
 
Good luck.
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Re: Checking/Checking Axiom Transmission Fluid (from the Isuzu Service Manual) [walk_the_walk2] by cptsesso
Jul 03, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: walk_the_walk2 (Jul 02, 2009 6:49 pm)

Look in the shop manual at page 7A-55 in the transmission section. The drawing shows the filter (item 8). Your right though, you can't find it searching with Adobe.
 
Google search also shows transmission filter available for Isuzu Axiom.
 
I just had mine changed last year along with fluid at 60k miles.
#44 of 48
blinking TOD light and transmission issues by sandman18
Aug 03, 2009 (12:29 pm)
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Hi, I have a 2002 and we have experienced times when travelling at constant speed, the TOD lights will flash and the transmission will shift up or down. This can be very disconcerting
 
We have had the vehicle back to the dealer 3 times but they cant reproduce the problem. We have been told it may be a defective speed sensor but since the computer doesn't register any fault codes, the dealer won't do anything.
 
My wife is ready to have us get rid of the vehicle. Any ideas?
 
Thanks!
#45 of 48
Transmission / Engine Vibration by boomen
Aug 04, 2009 (5:32 pm)
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I have an '02 Axiom and when driving I experience a very noticeable vibration (like you're driving over shallow rumble strips) when the rpm's are between 1500 and 1800 at about 40mph. I tried coasting at different speeds and have determined that it's not the tires or wheel bearings. Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea of what it may be? Thanks.
 
 - For a brief history, I now have 107K on the car and had the tranny replaced under warranty at 65K and the engine replaced under warranty at 85K. -
 
#46 of 48
Transmission Problems by gegesha
Sep 15, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Hi everyone
 
I`m Revaz from Tbilisi, Georgia.
I have an `04 Axiom and it has problems with Transmission, I want to buy it but i could not know where i can it buy. Please give me some advises where i can it buy
#47 of 48
Catastrophic Failure by trek1200
Oct 25, 2009 (6:37 am)
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I was driving down the highway when my 02 Axiom started making a bunch of noise. It sounded like it was coming from the transmission or transfer case, but then it stopped. It sounded like some SUVs with really strong 4WD systems sound when engaged in 4WD at high speed. Mine however was not. The sound then stopped for several seconds when the Car suddenly made a loud bang and started braking and came to a rather abrupt halt. The rear tires will not longer rotate and the engine, while starting, sends all of its power into oblivion. Anybody else run into this problem?
#48 of 48
where can I buy a new automatic gear box by abuaseil
Oct 28, 2009 (2:56 am)
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Hi all
I am about to buy an AXIOM 2002 2 WD but the Automatic transmission is DEAD. Could any body tell me where to buy it from and how much would it cost. I live in LIBYA and there are no dealeres who sell spare parts for this car.
 
thanks

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