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Re: First 10,000 miles [hiwayman]
by engnrng
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Feb 13, 2008 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Dec 26, 2007 10:07 am)
I have 4 yrs experience with Prius synergy system, mostly the same as the Altima hybrid. My wife got a 2008 NAH last week, got 35 mpg on her first tank (location SoCal), she gets near 50 mpg in my Prius for same commute. Some facts: cold start warmup is for catalytic converter heating to reduce emissions. The colder the cat is, the longer the engine must run to warm it up. This will reduce mileage on short trips, make less of a difference on longer trips. To reduce mileage effects, start driving immediately after start. The sooner the blue cold light goes off, the sooner mileage rises. Also, battery temp affects its efficiency collecting and delivering electricity. Best mileage will occur on a warmed up car at about 45-50 mph driving up and down hills, on a 60 to 75 degree day. Driving 72 mph instead of 62 mph can reduce mileage about 2-3 mpg. Driving hills and mountains can increase mileage by taking more advantage of the regen nature of the system. Best mileage I ever got in the Prius was a 45 minute stop/go traffic slowdown in LA - averaged over 60 mpg.
PS - we got the Altima over the Camry - seemed more user friendly, less cabin clutter, more usable trunk volume, better $$ incentives.
Hope this helps, have fun!
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Other states?
by gwilson
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Feb 26, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Anyone heard anything official (or even rumor) on when or if Nissan will be offering the NAH nation wide?
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Re: Other states? [gwilson]
by langjie
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Feb 26, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: gwilson (Feb 26, 2008 10:26 am)
no rumors or anything. probably only if your state passed california emission standards would you see the NAH
you can't get a dealership to trade for one?
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- #267 of 321
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Re: Other states? [gwilson]
by hiwayman
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Feb 26, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: gwilson (Feb 26, 2008 10:26 am)
I read a short article in a car magazine (oddly enough while waiting for an oil change at my Nissan dealer) that talked about a new hybrid system Nissan is currently working on. As you know, Nissan's current system is manufactured under license from Toyota. Nissan wasn't sure the hybrid fad was a fad or real market pressure, but now with gas going to hit $4.00/gallon by the end of this summer, suddenly hybrids are in increasing demand. At any rate, Nissan has been licensed to produce 60K NAHs with Toyota Synergy drive, and then they'll have to find something else. The new Nissan system is rumored to be a very good system. New battery technologies are about to hit the market, too, which will make our current hybrids look pretty marginal... As to when Nissan will market in all states, currently the demand for these cars is so high that Nissan can't get enough of them to the few states they're currently sold in. Not sure how Nissan is going to deal with that, but I'd guess you won't be seeing nationwide sales until the new Nissan-engineered hybrid comes out in a couple of years.
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- #268 of 321
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Re: Other states? [hiwayman]
by langjie
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Feb 26, 2008 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Feb 26, 2008 1:54 pm)
that could be true. i know that the 8 states that get it now only get it because of the Cali Emission Standards.
the future will of course be better, but how long will that take? by then I would have already broke even on getting a hybrid (another 3-4 years depending on gas prices). so i'm not a big believer of "waiting for the new model to come out" before i make my next purchase
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Re: Other states? [langjie]
by gwilson
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Feb 26, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: langjie (Feb 26, 2008 11:17 am)
Yes, I could probably get one here (Ohio) via a dealer or online ordering but I am more worried about once I do have it, getting service. I am afraid of taking it to a dealer here and getting a blank stare from the service guys when presented with a NAH. You think that would be an issue?
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Re: Other states? [gwilson]
by langjie
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Feb 27, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: gwilson (Feb 26, 2008 2:14 pm)
i believe that each Nissan dealership needs to at least have 1 certified hybrid technician. I would check with your dealership.
the thinking is, if i were to go on a road trip to ohio, and my car has problems, what am i supposed to do?
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Re: Other states? [langjie]
by gwilson
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Feb 28, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: langjie (Feb 27, 2008 6:53 am)
Good point. I might try calling a couple of dealers around here and see if/how they are equiped to handle the Altima Hybrid.
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- #272 of 321
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Re: Other states? [gwilson]
by hiwayman
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Feb 28, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: gwilson (Feb 28, 2008 11:41 am)
Fortunately, the NAH is VERY low maintenance. It is unlikely you'll have any hybrid/engine problems, and the rest of the car is just standard Altima, so dealerships should be able to handle the car with little difficulty. Additionally, Nissan understands that you may buy the car in one of the Great Eight, but it's likely you'll drive it to other states, especially in the East where states are relatively small. Their techs are trained to service them, and they have an excellent support system if the techs have questions..... go for it!
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- #273 of 321
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Tire Problem
by mazda6dude
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Mar 06, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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I bought my NAH brand new in 2007. After buying my NAH, I had a problem with the car pulling to the right. So I took it back to the dealership and they cross rotated the front tires. After they did this, the problem got worse.
I went back to the dealership and spent a whole day with the service department and they said they fixed the problem. Well, driving home, the problem still existed.
I filed a claim with BBB and Nissan contacted me to solve the problem. They gave me a rental for a day and kept my NAH to fix it. The worked on it, aligned, rotated, used computers to solve the problem. They called me up and said the problem was fixed. They finally fixed the problem. I talk to the shop foreman and he said he couldn't guarantee me the problem was fixed.
Well, time came to rotate/balance my tires and I went and got my tires rotated and balanced. The same problem is back again. The car pulls to the right. It went back to doing the samething. I called the service advisor to tell him the problem is back after 3 months and hasn't called me back.
I need some advice on what to do? Please, if anyone can help me, I would highly appreciate the suggestions. I have never spent so much time trying to fix a problem with any of my cars, except for this NAH. Its has been a problem since day one. Is it a problem with the alignment, tires or something worse?
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