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Pontiac G8 vs BMW 3-Series vs Lexus IS 350

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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [rockylee] by fenwah
Mar 19, 2007 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 24, 2007 11:10 pm)

Actually the G8 that you saw with the nice leather interior dash, big wheels, etc., will never make it into production. The production model will be a scaled back version. I'm a bit nervous of what they will do the G8. After seeing the G8 interior at the autoshows, I have a feeling that we will all be disappointed with what the production version will look like.
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Re: Pontiac competing with Lexus and BMW ???? [rockylee] by fenwah
Mar 19, 2007 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 12, 2007 12:33 am)

My tax dollars had better not be spent bailing out GM. If anything, make those union boys work instead of playing cards. Reduce those union boys salaries as they are ridiciously high...big deal...they put a part on a car over and over. Reduce retirement and health benefits to the union boys. GM needs to get their head out of their *** if they ever want to compete with real automakers.
 
And this is coming from someone who hopes the G8 is the real deal. Too bad we had to rebadge an Aussie car to do it. But the engineers in the U.S. can't develop a decent car...then so be it.
 
I do believe the 08 CTS will be a huge winner though.
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [fenwah] by rockylee
Mar 19, 2007 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: fenwah (Mar 19, 2007 12:58 pm)

Actually the G8 that you saw with the nice leather interior dash, big wheels, etc., will never make it into production. The production model will be a scaled back version.
 
What ? The interior is a left-side drive Holden Commodore. Sure the color of leather which was ugly anyways in yellow and 20 inch tires won't make it into production yet but the HSV/GXP version will have 20's. Scaled back I think not !!!! Where are you getting your head filled with this hyperbole at ?
 
I'm a bit nervous of what they will do the G8. After seeing the G8 interior at the autoshows, I have a feeling that we will all be disappointed with what the production version will look like.
 
Again who is telling you this hyperbole. Got a link of proof ? Sure the interior color won't make it or the 20's but everything else is Holden Commodore production ready.
 
Go check out the Holden Commodores on YouTube and Holden.com and their you will see a Holden interior which like the GTO's will be the same, only left-hand side for U.S. market
 
WOW.......
 
Rocky
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [rockylee] by subearu
Mar 19, 2007 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 19, 2007 6:25 pm)

Autoblog has a review of the Commodore that tries to relate it to the North American market. Fresh pics of the interior and exterior of the version that is headed here.
 
Really, the show car had 19" wheels and some skirting and whatnot. That won't make production, maybe on GXP version. Otherwise, as Rocky said, the G8 we've seen at the shows and on the web should be quite similar.
 
-Brian
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Re: Pontiac competing with Lexus and BMW ???? [fenwah] by rockylee
Mar 19, 2007 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: fenwah (Mar 19, 2007 1:04 pm)

Your answer will be posted in the forum "possible salvation for domestic automakers" in automotive news and views as this isn't the place to have this go further off-topic.
 
Rocky
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [subearu] by rockylee
Mar 19, 2007 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: subearu (Mar 19, 2007 6:37 pm)

Yep !!!!
 
Rocky
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [rockylee] by subearu
Mar 19, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 19, 2007 6:56 pm)

Now, if we could only get some concrete info on pricing and options.
 
-Brian
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [subearu] by rockylee
Mar 19, 2007 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: subearu (Mar 19, 2007 7:11 pm)

I agree Brian. Expect the G8 to start out at around $26-27K for the 3.6 261 hp base V8. The G8 GT V8 will top out at around $33K with a GTP hitting about $36K with a 400-425 hp 6.2 V8. The limited HSV/GTX version probably will hit $40K or so for a 7.0 LS-7 V8 with 502 hp or more. It will not debut before MY 2009' according to the sources I've read.
 
Rocky
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [rockylee] by holdenguy
Apr 22, 2007 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Mar 19, 2007 7:23 pm)

Here you go Rocky,
BMW 550i vs VE Calais V8 vs Benz E500 comparison.
Lot of reading but very well written article.
 
http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2358840.aspx
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Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [holdenguy] by rockylee
Apr 22, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: holdenguy (Apr 22, 2007 6:03 am)

Yep, it was a very good read. I myself would probaably take the Mercedes, of the three.
 
Rocky

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