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Pontiac G8 vs BMW 3-Series vs Lexus IS 350

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#1 of 102 Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges by rockylee

Feb 13, 2007 (1:17 pm)

Is the new Pontiac G8, going to steal sales from the more traditional ELLPS sedans with it's big V8 power and luxurious interior for a fraction of the price ?
 
I personally think it will steal some sales from the others because not all people are worried about emblems and care more about the product.
 
Rocky

#2 of 102 No one knows by lokki

Feb 14, 2007 (11:41 am)

Prince Charming (or the the G8) always looks good in the publicity photos.
 
Many's the pretender who has claimed the title before, only to eventually go back to his job in the rental car trade.
 
We'll have to wait till we get a chance to dance with this one a little before we start dumping our current heros.
 
Oh, and regarding:
 
I personally think it will steal some sales from the others because not all people are worried about emblems and care more about the product
 
You might want to ask some of the executives at Volkswagen about that. They have some recent experience on that point.

#3 of 102 Re: No one knows [lokki] by rockylee

Feb 14, 2007 (12:55 pm)

Replying to: lokki (Feb 14, 2007 11:41 am)
Prince Charming (or the the G8) always looks good in the publicity photos.
 
It won't in person. This car is essentially the Holden Commodore which was "World Car of the Year" I think.
 
Many's the pretender who has claimed the title before, only to eventually go back to his job in the rental car trade.
 
The G8, will not be a rental special because GM, is only going to import by demand for them.
 
We'll have to wait till we get a chance to dance with this one a little before we start dumping our current heros.
 
That is fair enough. I think you will respect it a lot. Your getting one hell of a lot of car for your dollar.
 
You might want to ask some of the executives at Volkswagen about that. They have some recent experience on that point.
 
Well VW, made a mistake by not giving the Passat more power. The "W" engine was a great one but VW made the mistake of not giving it more power via turbo charger. If the Passat would of made 320 hp. had a manual option, and perhaps a tighter sports suspension it would be more widely respected. I do think the current VW Passat is a respectable ELLPS car but it's sure not class leading. It's kinda like the Acura TL, it does nothing exceptionally well but does enough well to be desired. The one thing the Passat does very well is protecting it's occupants in crashes and that my friend you can't put a price tag on.
 
Rocky

#4 of 102 Re: No one knows [rockylee] by rhmass

Feb 14, 2007 (6:41 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 14, 2007 12:55 pm)
Somehow I don't think the poster meant VW Passat, but rather the Touareg to make his point.

#5 of 102 Re: No one knows [rhmass] by rockylee

Feb 14, 2007 (6:52 pm)

Replying to: rhmass (Feb 14, 2007 6:41 pm)
Well if he meant the Touareg, that was pretty sarcastic of him.
 
Rocky

#6 of 102 uh no, by dhamilton

Feb 14, 2007 (8:08 pm)

he meant the Phaeton.
 
People care about the badge.
 
Nobody wanted a 70k Volkswagen. And it was a good one.
 
At that price point, why have the A8.

#7 of 102 Re: uh no, [dhamilton] by rockylee

Feb 15, 2007 (7:30 am)

Replying to: dhamilton (Feb 14, 2007 8:08 pm)
he meant the Phaeton.
 
That was an Audi A8. Has Audi always bee prestigious ? I remember in the 80's they weren't all that special to own because they had lots of eletrical problems but I guess because they are German they will be forgiven easier.
 
People care about the badge.
 
I respectfully disagree. People that have money in the bank don't near as much as someone who has every dime spent come pay day so he/she can say "look at me".
 
Nobody wanted a 70k Volkswagen. And it was a good one.
 
Well Volkswagen, customer service was ranked dead last a few years ago. It also was a rebadged Audi 8 and they did nothing really to distinguish them.
 
At that price point, why have the A8.
 
The Audi, had better customer service records and the A8 was arguable the better lookin' one of the two. Well in my eyes it was.
 
However this is suppose to be a G8 vs Lexus IS 350 & BMW 335i. The bottom line is this if someone is shopping for the best car in the $30K range they will buy the as loaded $32-33K G8. The base models of both the Lexus IS 350 and BMW 335i costs more dough. The base Lexus IS 350 is $3K more than a loaded G8. The BMW 335i cost's $38K but just like the Lexus, how many base models is either company going to produce because most folks will want at least some features.
 
Rocky

#8 of 102 Re: Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans With and Without Luxury Badges [rockylee] by allargon

Feb 19, 2007 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 13, 2007 1:17 pm)
Not a chance... The Pontiac G8 competes with the Avalon, the Lucerne, the Impala, the Ford 50..err..Taurus and the Nissan Maxima.
 
The Passat is a midsized car. The Pontiac is NOT an ELLPS--period. It's a full-sized sedan. It may even be a full-sized performance sedan. However, Pontiac is not nor has it ever been a luxury brand.

#9 of 102 Get the point. by holdenguy

Feb 21, 2007 (6:37 am)

Guys, the G8 is a LARGE car, not puny like a 3 series Bimmer.
Wheels magazine here in Aus put it up against a 5 series Bimmer.
As I have said elsewhere here, It out handled, out grunted, out valued the Bimmer by a long way.
It was a v8 Bimmer, not a 6, against a v8 Calais.
The SS Commodore are selling like crazy here atm, I hope there are some left for you guys next year

#10 of 102 Re: Get the point. [holdenguy] by subearu

Feb 21, 2007 (7:49 pm)

Replying to: holdenguy (Feb 21, 2007 6:37 am)
Well noted. When I saw the G8 at the Chicago auto show I too wondered about it's size comparison. It's kind of hard to gauge it when you can't sit in it . Any sites with specs and dimensions of the Commodore that compare it to the 5 (and others it competes with down under)? Something like the Compare tool here on Edmunds.
 
-Brian

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