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#26 of 33 Re: Switching to Snow Tires with 07 Ody EX - TPMS Questions [svalentine] by sreiss Jan 12, 2009 (12:17 am)
Replying to: svalentine (Jan 11, 2009 7:48 pm) Shar - going with blizzaks on steel wheels makes sense, but you can do better than $1000. I got mine from tirerack.com delivered for about 25% less than that. You can also get wheel covers so you don't just have black wheels. You can order the option of putting a TPMS sensor in the steel wheels, but it's an unnecessary expense, in my opinion. The purpose is to tell you if your tire pressure is dangerously low. If you keep an eye on your tires and periodically check pressure, I doubt there would be a problem. Plus, you would only have these tires on for a few months a year.   Yearly changeover - I do it myself - takes about 90 minutes - although you can take your car to a Sears or any local place and ask for a snow tire changeover. Can't imagine it would cost $150. I haven't done the spring switch to put the originals back on yet, but I am told the TPMS will just re-engage and there is nothing else I need to do.   Oh - when you go to tirerack.com, or give them a call, they will have all the technical specs for your make/model to put the right tires and wheels on it. I've used tirerack twice with two oddyseys - they are great.   Good luck Replies to this message: jmn3 (Feb 26, 2009 8:05 pm) bigdadi118 (Feb 26, 2009 10:16 pm) sreiss (Feb 28, 2009 2:20 pm) michaelok (Mar 04, 2009 10:05 pm)
#27 of 33 Re: Switching to Snow Tires with 07 Ody EX - TPMS Questions [sreiss] by jmn3 Feb 26, 2009 (8:05 pm)
Replying to: sreiss (Jan 12, 2009 12:17 am) Do not buy an Odyssey if you plan to drive it in the snow. I love Hondas, and love my Odyssey, but it does NOT drive in the snow. I have been trying to find snow tires for my 2006 for 2 years now to no avail. The "claim" by two dealers and a Discount Tires is that they do not make a snow tire for the size and weight.   I live in Minnesota and would trade this thing in in a heartbeat if I wouldn't lose money on it. Can't get up even a minor grade hill in the snow and tires spin on flat surfaces. Not safe with the amount of sliding in the snow. I honestly can't believe that Honda sells a family car that is so unsafe.   Note: the older models seem to drive better in the snow. Maybe they will fix it soon? I have made several complaints and Honda is in denial over the poor snow performance. Replies to this message: bigdadi118 (Feb 26, 2009 10:16 pm) sreiss (Feb 28, 2009 2:20 pm) michaelok (Mar 04, 2009 10:05 pm)
#28 of 33 Re: Switching to Snow Tires with 07 Ody EX - TPMS Questions [jmn3] by bigdadi118 Feb 26, 2009 (10:16 pm)
Replying to: jmn3 (Feb 26, 2009 8:05 pm) I just checked tirerack.com re 2006 Ody EX. The OEM size is 235/65-16 and OEM tires are BS Turanza EL42 or Michelin Energy LX4 The recommended Winter Tire is BS Blizzark WS-60 (Studless Ice & Snow) 235/65-16 $105/ea. The survey has 9.3/10.0 re "Would Buy Again"   Hope this can help.   If you have PAX tires you can de-pax 4 + 1 spare tire for info below... http://www.collegehillshonda.com/artman2/publish/Odyssey_41/Podcast_Episode_131_- -_Honda_Odyssey_DePAX_Kit.shtml
#29 of 33 Re: Switching to Snow Tires with 07 Ody EX - TPMS Questions [jmn3] by sreiss Feb 28, 2009 (2:20 pm)
Replying to: jmn3 (Feb 26, 2009 8:05 pm) Certainly does not track with my experience. As noted elsewhere - try Tirerack.com - give them a call and talk to one of their people on the phone about what you need. Except for potential supply shortages because we are more towards the end of the snow season than the beginning, I would be surprised if you could not get a good snow tire that would work well. I did for my 01 Odyssey which I drove for 7 years and then for my 07 Ody which is working well on the Blizzaks I put on it.   I have a quarter-mile long driveway that has multiple 15% grade hills and sharp curves and I drive it with confidence with the Blizzaks. I agree it would be unsafe to do with the stock all-seasons, so I swap over to the Blizzaks in early winter and leave them on until major threat of snow passes for the year - located in Connecticut.
#30 of 33 Re: Switching to Snow Tires with 07 Ody EX - TPMS Questions [jmn3] by michaelok Mar 04, 2009 (10:05 pm)
Replying to: jmn3 (Feb 26, 2009 8:05 pm) "I have been trying to find snow tires for my 2006 for 2 years now to no avail."   I have been very satisfied with Nokian tires. These are very serious tires, with aggressive treads. They even make an excellent studded bike tire.   They do have tires for the Odyssey. I have the Hakkapeliitta "Sport Utility" (SUV) model. It seems from a quick check of their web site they have many dealers in MN (at least in MPLS as would be expected), so check around a little. I bought mine here in Wisconsin, at an American Tire Center I believe, but they are readily available at many shops, perhaps not the big internet-only ones.   I have a very short and steep driveway so that is my test, if I can get up that driveway without shoveling, and the Odyssey, clad with the Nokian, do just fine, no slipping unless icy.   In general, I've been pleased the way the Ody handles in the snow, but this is with the snows of course. I did buy steel rims, but not the TPMS, that would be significantly more expensive. I don't recall, but I believe (and this was at the dealer) they tried to install them, but gave up, suggested I go without the TPMS. My feeling is "4 snows > TPMS", so no problem.   Good luck on finding the Nokians, they are definitely worth considering. http://www.nokiantires.com
#31 of 33 upstate new york snow - niagra falls - by inspectoring Dec 05, 2009 (2:10 am)
I am about to buy an odyssey and I am concerned that how it would perform in the Niagara falls snow? Is it really that unsafe or should we consider the SUV? I hear that it does well in the snow but I am not certain if the people with that claim actually live in the heavy duty snow area ?   I will be very grateful for any input ! Thank you ! Replies to this message: sreiss (Dec 05, 2009 5:24 am) bigdadi118 (Dec 05, 2009 7:36 am)
#32 of 33 Re: upstate new york snow - niagra falls - [inspectoring] by sreiss Dec 05, 2009 (5:24 am)
Replying to: inspectoring (Dec 05, 2009 2:10 am) If one of your major criteria in buying a vehicle is the ability to move around in snow, I would not buy a minivan. It's not what they are engineered for, in my view. That said, my personal experience is that the Ody is great in snow, but it's not the car I take if it's really coming down and I have to get somewhere. If you have flexibility in when you travel, and put good snow tires on it, and the roads are well maintained in your area, then the Ody is great.   I don't have any personal experience with the Pilot (I assume that's what you are referring to when you say "the SUV"), however I would expect that it would be very good in snow. I have a lot of experience with the CRV, and with good tires, the AWD system (which kicks in when needed and is off otherwise) is very effective. I have been able to move up steep, slippery hills, weaving my way around other stranded cars.
#33 of 33 Re: upstate new york snow - niagra falls - [inspectoring] by bigdadi118 Dec 05, 2009 (7:36 am)
Replying to: inspectoring (Dec 05, 2009 2:10 am) Ody does not have AWD while the Sienna does. If you live in Buffalo/ Niagara Falls area, Sienna AWD is your better minivan choice. Even AWD you still need snow tires for best handling, faster acceleration and shorter braking distance in snow/ice. Example Bridgestone Blizzak WS60 (Studless Ice & Snow) Aaverage rating.8.3 Size: 235/65R16 Sidewall Style: Blackwall Serv. Desc: 103R Load Index 103 = 1929lbs (875kg) per tire   Minivan ground clearance is not as good as the SUVs, though you don't need to climb in and out of the cabin. Speed Rating "R" = 106mph (170kph) Price: $105.00 (each)

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