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Re: Lousy V6 mileage?? [conwelpic] by crewzin
Sep 29, 2007 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Sep 29, 2007 3:37 pm)

I find it hard to keep track of all the different threads that are mixed up under one heading. There can be 3 or more different threads going on at one time. This thread started out as "Real World MPG" and just on the first two pages alone, 5 new topics and conversations were started out like: "16 mpg - 2007 Rondo", "Gas mileage for first full trip", "Tire pressure and MPG" and "Regular or Premium gas". Right now we're posting under "Lousy V6 mileage".
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Re: Lousy V6 mileage?? [conwelpic] by medicineman
Sep 29, 2007 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Sep 29, 2007 3:37 pm)

Believe it or not, I didn't even notice that hovering over the member's name would bring up the member's profile info, which is why I never filled out my profile. But you're right, Conwelpic, these forums aren't as user friendly or as easy to follow (as Crewzin suggested) as most other forums I've participated in. Perhaps it's time to use more up-to-date forum software, but I have a feeling it would be impossible to migrate over all the old posts. Perhaps it's easier to just close these forums but keep it alive as an archive, and open up all new forums using newer (and more user friendly) forum software.
 
Anyway, this is obviously just a wee bit off-topic (and I'm no stranger to that), so it's time for me to shut up.
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Re: Lousy V6 mileage?? [crewzin] by lightfootfl
Sep 30, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: crewzin (Sep 29, 2007 4:53 pm)

Don't all of these that you mentioned apply to MPG? Almost everything that affects the mileage should definitely be here, not just, " I get 24mpg", or whatever. Sorry, but I just can't agree with you as "different threads".
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Re: Lousy V6 mileage?? [crewzin] by caliberchic
Oct 01, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: crewzin (Sep 29, 2007 4:53 pm)

The topic is about Real World MPG but as new posters come into the topic they title their posts something new..same topic just with a unique title attached.
 
The conversations/posts are kept under one heading or Topic because it would be very time consuming for members to search the entire Rondo forum area for all MPG posts/conversations to compare notes. Imagine if these conversations were all listed separately in their own threads versus combined into this one central thread!
 
As for the profiles, be patient..things are happening.
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29mpg highway with V6 by rondonium
Oct 03, 2007 (7:14 am)
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200 mile highway trip yesterday. 70mph. 89 octane gas. Front tires: 36psi, rear: 35psi. Periodic use of AC. 7k miles on odometer.
 
29.7 miles per gallon - U.S., that is
 
I'm amazed. Again, same mpg as our 4cyl Passat.
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89 Octane? by vanner
Oct 03, 2007 (4:19 pm)
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Okay - I posted over in "Kia Rondo" that we are heading toward a Rondo, probably soon. But, I see a mention here about 89 octane gas. Is this Kia's recommended/required octane rating? Does the Rondo really need mid-performance gasoline? Is this a V-6 thing? I will have to reconsider if higher octane, at a dime to twenty cents a gallon more than 87 octane, has to be used. That would put gas over $3 US per gallon here in the Ohio Valley at least most of the time. Our '05 Sedona gets along just fine with 87 and that might make for a change of plans.
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Re: 89 Octane? [vanner] by conwelpic
Oct 03, 2007 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: vanner (Oct 03, 2007 4:19 pm)

according to the owners manual:
"Your new vehicle is designed to use only unleaded fuel having a pump octane number of 87 or higher."
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Re: 89 Octane? [vanner] by rondonium
Oct 03, 2007 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: vanner (Oct 03, 2007 4:19 pm)

87 is standard fare. 89 was a treat. I only noted it as a condition in my 29mpg V6 highway trip. Sorry for the confusion Vanner.
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Re: 89 Octane? [rondonium] by vanner
Oct 04, 2007 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: rondonium (Oct 03, 2007 6:01 pm)

Thanks rondonium.
 
I drive for a living - a distributor rep. For that I get to cover a lot of miles repeating familiar routes over lots of seasonal changes and weather conditions, using the same, very consistent vehicle, with pretty consistent loads. This gives me a chance to study some aspects of MPG.
 
I have found FAR more variation in brands and locations of purchases than with octane levels, but that may not be true in other vehicles. (Mine is a 16 valve inline 4 w/cfi.)
 
Here around Louisville, we are required to use oxygenated blends, supposedly for polution control, but obviously much more to suport the single designated-supplier in return for the governor's political funding.
 
So if I buy gas in Louisville, no matter which brand, the MPG is lower by a full 10% over time than gas I buy, say, in Lexington or Evansville. I can get enough "round trips" with single tanks that I can judge gas from any location over both "directions" of travel, and the weather here stays pretty constant through the year. Especially this year - hot, dry, dusty.
 
Some brands do better than others by a little, maybe, but the difference is so slight as to make it questionable, and price becomes more important. Grocers and "big-boxes" that offer gas discounts for purchases usually win because I can't find a measurable difference between them and major brands with stars or shells or rainbows on their signs.
 
One "treat" I do offer this vehicle is a tankful of Chevron now and then for the Techron. That tankful does not mean better mileage, but it does seem to make the little 4-banger run better for a few more miles.
 
So, if the Rondo doesn't need anything over 87, it's still the plan to replace our family Sedona. Not changing for the MPG - other reasons. I still need to know more about the Rondo's service costs to keep up the warranty. Sedona is brutal.
 
These forums are GREAT, and if I'd known of them before we bought our '05 Sedona, I may have made a different choice. (The Sedona is a good van, but there is that service cost to factor in, and the very low used-car value.)
 
BTW - what are you using for oil?
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Re: 89 Octane? [vanner] by conwelpic
Oct 04, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: vanner (Oct 04, 2007 5:38 am)

vanner - in checking on the service costs at my local Canadian KIA dealer, they seemed quite reasonable (thats for any of their models) for the service provided, it doesn't seem "brutal" to me. However, its not compulsory to have it serviced at a KIA dealer as long as you have proof of meeting the service requirements.
My sister-in-law has an Envoy and I thought the dealership charges on her vehicle were considerably higher. Usually any dealership of any manufacturer charge more than an independent service place. Depends on the location of the dealership and level of service that you expect.
Just for your information the V6 Rondo does require a timing belt replacement at 96,000kn or 48 months, the 4 cylinder does not - it uses a chain.
 
I would suggest that for comparison check out service costs at a dealership for a comparable Chevy van like the Uplander or Dodge Caravan or Honda Odyssey vs your current Sedona.
 
I would have thought that as a rep, service costs and upkeep on your vehicle would be a tax write-off.
 
You can download the 2008 warranty details from the KIA US website.

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