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#167 of 363 04' NAVIGATOR AIR RIDE
Dec 09, 2009 (1:07 am)
I'M NEW WITH THIS FORUMS, BUT DON'T WE ALL THINKS THAT FORD SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS DAME ISSUES WITH THEIR SO CALL" DYNAMIC AIR SUSPENSION SYSTEM"? I MEAN IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYONE WHO HAD A NAVIGATOR HAS HAD SOME SORT OF PROBLEMS WITH THESE AIR SUSPENSION, I, MYSELF ALSO OWN AN 04' NAVIGATOR AND HAS BEEN HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE FRONT OSUSPENSION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO AIR UP, BROUGHT TO THE DEALER HAD IT DIAGNOSED, THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT I HAVE AN AIRBAG LEAKAGE, I HAD BOTH OF THE FRONT BAGS CHANGED OUT FOR ABOUT $1,000 AND THAT'S JUST PARTS ONLY, STILL DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEMS, CALLED THE DEALER AGAIN AND THEY TOLD TO BRING THE TRUCK IN FOR THEM TO RE-CALIBRATE THE SYSTEM, AND AT THIS POINT I'M VERY SKEPTICAL IF THEY'RE GONNA GIVE ME THAT BAD DIAGNOST AGAIN. WELL MY PROBLEM IS STILL THERE BUT IF ANY ONE CAN OFFER ME SOME SORT OF HELPS I'LL BE REALLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH
#168 of 363 Re: 98 Navi Rear dropped [djfunn]
Dec 09, 2009 (2:37 am)
Quick follow up... I was able to find that the relay under the dash by the control module is the same relay that is used for the compressor.... I switched them and the compressor kicked in and the back end lifted back up.... Now I have to talk to the dealer about them BS'ing me about needing a new compressor and them replacing the relay that is obvious that they didn't... This is gonna be funn...
#169 of 363 Re: 04' NAVIGATOR AIR RIDE [tdinh2]
by steve_ HOST
Dec 09, 2009 (10:19 am)
Welcome to the forum, Dinh2. Lower case posts are easier on the eyes - people tend to ignore posts written in ALL CAPS since they are hard to read.
#170 of 363 Re: "00 Navigator Suspension issue [worldnavigator]
Dec 09, 2009 (2:37 pm)
i have a 2000 navi also and it did this to me about a year ago. if you check back in my logs you could find my post describing my symptoms which are quite similar to yours. I changed the compressor and it fixed the problem.. when the compressor fails the check engine light does not turn on. i think this is because the suspension never leveled and then failed. you said it happened when it was parked. try hard wiring the relay located below the compressor as others in the form describe, if the compressor doesnt turn on then you found yur problem. if it does turn you have a bad or dirty relay. good luck. let me know how it works.
#171 of 363 Re: 2003 Nav Air ride trouble [zhemiz2]
Dec 09, 2009 (2:53 pm)
could you give a little more detail as to what exactly fixed your suspension. you said it was a shock and shock mount replacement that fixed it. this vehicles is 4x4? when you say shock do you mean a front air spring ? why does your shock have an o ring kit. confussed but very curious. i am having problems wiht my suspension on my 00 2wd.
#173 of 363 Air Suspension Issue
Dec 10, 2009 (12:00 pm)
Hi Guys, I recently took my 2004 Navigator to the local Ford dealership. I had them check out the vehicle because it "looks" to me like the front end, not the back end is settling too low when you turn the car off. When you turn the car off you can hear the compressor decompressing, and the car settles down. I am the original owner, and have always been aware of this. But it just seems like the wheel well is really close to the front tires, again only in the front. I noticed most of you are having this issue with the back end. Anyway after a $96 service charge I was told there was nothing wrong, actually to my surprise. My car has 65K miles on it. Any comments? It seems like some folks are getting the run around at the dealerships. I am assuming since my car is 5 years old this fall and with that many miles that I am out of warranty. Thank you for your response.
#174 of 363 2004 navigator air ride
Dec 10, 2009 (3:31 pm)
Need help, can anybody tell me where the compressor relay is located on a 2004 Navigator?
#175 of 363 Re: How to Bypass Air Susension Relay in Navigator [MattyMo]
Dec 10, 2009 (6:14 pm)
Going to re-post this because people are asking.... Thank you MattyMo..
For those of you with a low-rider Navigator that is low in the back the first thing to check is the relay as it is a $115 dollar part you can pick up and change yourself. Also, you can test to see if the relay is the problem by bypassing it. How? Follow these steps.. (this is straight from the Ford/Lincoln Service CD)
1) Locate Suspension Relay (behind passenger headlight - next to the horn - small amp looking like box - access from the ground, underneath the car - with a 4 post plug going into it).
2) Pull the 4-post plug
3) The manual says to connect a bypass wire "10 guage with 50A fuse" (I used about a 4" long - 14 guage wire - no fuse) from post A to post B (the left two posts when looking at the plug and the tab is on top)
4) If the relay is the problem you will immediately hear the compressor start to air-up your shocks - just don't leave the wire there for more than 30-40 seconds as it will get hot and you risk burning out your compressor.
5) Once your shocks are aired up and the back end is not longer a low rider then you should be able to drive around for a few days before leaks in the system let the air out - enough time to get to the dealer and get a new air compressor relay.
If this does not solve the problem then you likely have a bad air compressor.
#176 of 363 Review on Strutmasters Conversion Kit for 98 Navigator
Dec 13, 2009 (10:53 pm)
Hey everyone, this board really helped me a lot recently, so I thought it was worth sharing some information that will hopefully help others. On Thanksgiving Eve, all of a sudden, my 1998 Navigator started riding in a really bumpy way. When I got home, I noticed the back looked like a lowrider. I took it to the dealer, which wanted to replace my compressor and a relay switch for 1250 bucks. After doing quite a bit of research, I ended up taking my car to a local mechanic instead and going with the deluxe strutmasters 4WD conversion. I was definitely nervous to see how the car would ride post-conversion, but I'm pleased to say that I've put about 125 miles on it over the last few days and notice absolutely no difference in the ride pre-conversion (when it was working properly) and post-conversion. I'm really pleased! The conversion - deluxe kit - with labor cost 1300 with tax (797 for the kit + the rest in labor), which is roughly what it would have cost me to replace the compressor and relay switch if the dealer had done that. From everything I read, once you start tinkering with patching up the air suspension parts, it becomes a real money pit. I'm hopeful that by going with the conversion, there will be no more expenses when it comes to suspension. Anyway, I'm really pleased with the conversion and recommend it to anyone who wants to get more years out of their Navigator or Expedition if they're experiencing problems with the air suspension system.