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Scion xB, Scion xD, Future Vehicle, Hatchback, Wagon, SUV
#307 of 356 Re: hmm [ohplezz]
Aug 12, 2007 (5:36 pm)
Don't know what it's like where you live, but here all the Mazda dealers sell them as a sideline, where you're treated as an after thought and a nuisance. Hard to get in for service, parts aren't well stocked, and only one service guy in the whole shop that works on them. Worse yet, many of these dealers sell (or used to sell) primarily domestics, so you're barely tolerated by other customers as a traitor.
Unfortunately Honda, Toyota, Subaru, and VW families of cars have the only strong dealer networks around here.
#308 of 356 Re: hmm [ohplezz]
Aug 12, 2007 (8:24 pm)
Steve you are a very lucky man to have a wife like that! But on the cars, have you considered a mazda 3i. Hway miles are very good 35+. I've got a buddy who gets 37 on the hway plus it is a blast to drive. Independent suspension front and back with 148hp. Check out the reviews on this car. Plus mazda dealers will sell them at invoice all day long. You can get a 3i touring 5MT for about 16k plus TTL. Test drive one of these when you get back and have your wife test drive it as well !
Yes i am a very lucky guy to have a woman like her. She is truly great!
I have owned Mazda's in the past and I really liked my Miata and Ford never got near to touching that with their gremlin filled hands. But I really do see Mazda as a Japanese Ford and in general I don't feel like they are good people to buy from or deal with. I even put up a review about my Miata on Edmunds Dealer Reviews as buying it was a nightmare, service I had a guy who was a Miata specialist do everything else.
That's why I never considered Mazda in any configuration.
#309 of 356 sat in an xd over the weekend...
Aug 13, 2007 (12:17 pm)
it was more pleasant than i thought it would be...it felt a bit more substanstial than the fit...but it should be as its almost 5 years newer.
but it was nice. the interior shine around the stereo was a bit of a turn off, and the interior fabric is not as nice as the fit's.
Aug 13, 2007 (1:27 pm)
Looking at the Daihatsu web page they show no car plant in japan but several parts plants. they show several car plants outside of japan and indonesia. The vin on the xB shows japan made. They could be suppling parts and materials but does not look like they are actually building the US xB's. The materia loooks like a clone, just like the Chery QQ looks like the daewoo Aveo
#311 of 356 Re: Xb [dreasdad]
Aug 14, 2007 (5:39 am)
The Daihatsu webpage shows that they produced in July 78 thousand vehicles in Japan. Over 57 thousand were Daihatsus and over 20 thousand were built for Toyota.
#312 of 356 Re: Xb [dreasdad]
Aug 14, 2007 (10:30 am)
The Materia is the xB in Japan. Toyota has a majority interest in Daihatsu.
#313 of 356 Re: hmm [ohplezz]
Oct 24, 2007 (10:31 pm)
The dealer in the Seattle area says they are charging a $620 destination fee;
manual $15,170 base
automatic $15,970 base
Is this right or is 'destination' supposed to be included in the pure pricing?
#314 of 356 Re: hmm [grayliner]
Oct 25, 2007 (12:25 am)
The pure price lingo is just for the car. Funny they leave out the fact that they charge you for moving the car from port to dealer. But all car companies leave this little gem out of their hype. And quite frankly if that is all they are adding on to the "pure price", I'd jump on it if I still wanted the car. Its the doc fee, the jerk you fee, the we are scion so you gotta pay up fee, is what I'd be walking over. I have not considered the xD since it came out 1k over what it should have been. They are asking to much for that car imho. But you know what they say about opinions. At this point I'm keeping what I've got until honda puts out either a diesel civic or hybrid CR-Z next model year. The little D just ain't worth it to me.
Oct 27, 2007 (10:22 pm)
Thanks ohplezz, I feel better. I wasn't sure if $620 was steep, or if 'pure pricing' was supposed to include it.
I drove a Honda Fit today. Both A/T and Manual tranny. It was prettier than the Yaris and the xD but drove the same in A/T. The MT had less engine noise on hard acceleration. But it costs more. And the 41 cubes of room in back was with the seats down, which I'll rarely do. I'll rent Home Depot's pickup or have the lumber yard deliver!!!
The options on the xD and the cheaper price have me leaning that way still. And the jaded sales lady at the Honda dealer was not exactly selling the thing at all. Do they hire these folks right out of prison?
I wonder if my 2001 Echo has a hot chip in it or something. It's just much quicker and quieter than all the others. And uses less gas. Maybe I should hold out too!
#316 of 356 Re: Not the car I had hoped for [wfhummel]
Oct 28, 2007 (10:30 am)
"One of the features on the xD I was looking forward to is the cruise control. I couldn't find any indicator light on the dash showing when the cruise control was on. Could it be that Scion added cruise control at the last moment and had no provisions for an indicator light? "
The cruise indicator is on the left side of the display. It's much more noticeable than the low fuel indicator, which is just that the fuel level thingie starts blinking benignly. I've run out of gas once and come very close to it many times. I have a long commute, and I'll be pulling into Atlanta and just happen to glance down and the thing is blinking (oh, no! How long has that been blinking?!) and make a frantic low-speed rush for the nearest price-gouging gas station.