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2008 Scion Xb

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#61 of 306
- by dudleyr
Apr 06, 2007 (6:22 am)
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I wonder if shipping is the diff between the two prices.
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dudleyr by nippononly
Apr 06, 2007 (7:27 am)
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Yes, it is, and the Doc ought to be more careful what he posts, eh Doc?!
 
The number at the bottom of the sticker, the actual asking price, goes up $1620 for the stick and over $1700 for the automatic.
 
That, and the edgy looks and good fuel economy of the old model go away.
 
The xB's sales are going to drop, not rise, I think.
 
The new xD will be a better deal, I think. It gets a better equipment list than the xA, more power from the Corolla 1.8 plus high fuel economy like it had before, and I will bet its price doesn't rise as much as the new xB's.
 
If Toyota wanted to go head to head with the Element, they accomplished their aim by undercutting it in price, but the xB doesn't offer AWD like Element, and I am not convinced there will be a lot of cross-shopping between the two.
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- by dudleyr
Apr 06, 2007 (8:39 am)
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A lot depends on gas mileage. If it gets tC mileage, then I don't really see the point. Cars that gets mpg in the 20's with lots of space are all over the place.
 
If it gets Camry mpg, then that is another story. 33-34 mpg on the highway with all that space and flexibility would be all alone in this country - until the jetta diesel wagon comes out in a year (less space, but way more efficiency.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by robt2
Apr 06, 2007 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 06, 2007 8:39 am)

I agree and am eagerly awaiting the mpg figures. Also I'm curious to see what has happened to headroom and backseat legroom. I don't think it's going to have 46 inches of headroom like the original, but I sure hope it's at least 40. Otherwise, despite the added space in other dimensions, it's going to feel cramped.
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Re: dudleyr [nippononly] by twain
Apr 06, 2007 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 06, 2007 7:27 am)

15,600 or 16,200 both are a steal for this car. I'm quite happy with that price. What did it gain, 55 hp? And it's bigger with more cargo space and it has cruise. And those center mounted gauges are cool. Can you tell I like it?
 
I predict the new xB will be a huge hit. Toyota did an excellent job of taking a cool car with limited appeal and increasing its market. Element and PT Cruiser and Matrix shoppers are going to gobble this thing up. As well as many who might have bought a small SUV/crossover.
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And actually... by alpha01
Apr 06, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Toyota typically charges $650 MSRP for side curtain airbags on models where that is optional... so one could say that prices went up about $1100 comparably equipped....
 
~alpha
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twain by nippononly
Apr 06, 2007 (11:25 pm)
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I like the gauges too!
 
alpha: sure, it's not like the adjustment in price was outrageous given all the changes, it is just that it is now in the center of the price range of all the little people movers (especially since Scions sell at no-haggle sticker price, unlike models from other automakers). With the high-20s combined fuel economy I expect it to have, you could just as easily get PT Cruiser, HHR, Caliber, Compass, and others for the same money. And I bet you could get a Honda dealer down to within $1000 of the xB's new price on a FWD Element.
 
Ditto other rather useful and/or quirky vehicles like Rondo and Mazda5, and let's not forget you could get a Matrix for the same money and you wouldn't be that far off the base price of a FWD 4-cyl RAV4, which has weekend ads all the time now selling at $20K without options.
 
It used to be in a class of one, and now it will not stand out as much, that's all. Now it's in a class of many.
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2008 Scion xB by sra136
Apr 07, 2007 (5:51 am)
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I agree that what it will come down to is the MPG.
 
It does have the Camry engine, but, what type of transmission will it be mated to. For me, it would either the 2008 xB or the new Matrix.
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Re: 2008 Scion xB [sra136] by nippononly
Apr 07, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: sra136 (Apr 07, 2007 5:51 am)

I am betting it gets the same transmission as the current RAV4 (4-speed automatic, rated 24/30 EPA in that model) and the 5-speed manual from the current Camry, if the new xB gets a manual (which I think it will).
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Re: 2008 Scion xB [nippononly] by 719b
Apr 07, 2007 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 07, 2007 9:38 am)

if it is the same drive train as the rav4, it may get a little better mileage than the rav4 because the xb should be lighter.

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