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Re: I liked the old one [bigfieroman] by mackabee
Aug 03, 2007 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 03, 2007 12:53 pm)

I am a Master Certified Toyota/Scion sales consultant. All my info comes straight from the source (the manufacturer).
    I take what CarandDriver says with a grain of salt. I cancelled my subscription to them a long time ago.
    What I said was the tC is based on the Avensis and the NA xB is just a four door tC. Look at the styling cues!
    Sure they have a different rear suspension but the chassis, frame, and subframes are the same.
 
 Mack
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Re: I liked the old one [mackabee] by bigfieroman
Aug 04, 2007 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 03, 2007 3:39 pm)

First of all, the tC and xB do not look all that similar; to my eyes at least. Even if you feel they look really similar, styling cues mean absolutely nothing when it comes to platform/chassis.
 
One of MANY examples is the Honda Pilot / Acura MDX / Honda Odyssey / Honda Ridgeline. They are all on the same platform. Most of them look NOTHING alike.
 
The xB only has a front subframe, not a rear, so if they are shared, there is only one. (I don't know if they are shared, I don't have a tC to compare and cannot find pictures offhand) Also, there is no "frame" as they are both unibody cars. Assuming you are referring to the unibody when you say "chassis", there would still have to be massive modifications to the chassis to go from tC to xB. The wheelbase is 4" shorter, the roof is much higher (all of this is included in the unibody). I am sure whichever car the xB is based on required significant modifications, it is not "the same" as any car.
 
The Auris is within 1" in length and has an IDENTICAL wheelbase. It has a strut front and torsion beam rear suspension, JUST LIKE THE xB.
 
From:
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/news/publish/AURIS_THE_NEW_TOYOTA.shtml
 
To convert mm to inches, divide by 25.4.
 
Look, I really don't mean to offend you, but I would tend to believe well established news sources (though they have been wrong in the past) before I would take the word of a disembodied voice from the internet.
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Re: I liked the old one [bigfieroman] by mackabee
Aug 04, 2007 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 04, 2007 6:02 am)

"Look, I really don't mean to offend you, but I would tend to believe well established news sources (though they have been wrong in the past) before I would take the word of a disembodied voice from the internet. "
 
That's just like saying "with all due respect". I am hardly a "disembodied voice from the internet." I've been on these forums since their inception and am well respected by other users and the hosts. Some of them have valued my insight and opinions so much that they've become customers. If you don't want to believe what I say that's your prerogative, and I'm ok with that. If you still have doubts go to my carspace and check it out.
 
 Mack
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Re: I liked the old one [mackabee] by bigfieroman
Aug 04, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 04, 2007 7:05 am)

It really is nothing personal. Regardless of who someone is or claims to be on the internet, I would believe an established news source before I take their word without proof. That goes for any subject matter, any topic, any claim. I said "I don't really mean to offend you" because I didn't, I was simply stating that I don't believe everything people tell me over the internet, especially when they offer no proof.
 
I believe you have been around for a while, and I believe you are a sales consultant for Toyota/Scion.
 
That doesn't make you infallible.
 
Post a link, a screen shot, or copy-paste the text from the literature. "I'm right because of who I am" doesn't fly.
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Re: I liked the old one [bigfieroman] by mackabee
Aug 04, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 04, 2007 7:35 am)

Don't put words in my mouth please. I never said I was infallible nor I'm right because of who I am. If you don't believe that's fine. No harm done.
 
 Mackabee
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Re: - [mrharper68] by topgear1224
Aug 05, 2007 (11:53 pm)
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Replying to: mrharper68 (May 28, 2007 7:20 pm)

the accord hybrid is the most powerful honda .it is honda trying to show everyone that hybrids dont have to be slow but 2007 was it's last year shame because i beat a honda accord coupe ex 6 sp at the strip with mine . wonder how it feels to be beaten by a hybrid
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Re: hmmmm [nippononly] by topgear1224
Aug 05, 2007 (11:58 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 29, 2007 8:14 pm)

my dad's 08 xb has 70,000 miles mostly highway and the economy gets better as it breaks in. no real problems yet his is "fully loaded" with accessories from their website. he cant wait to supercharge it
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Re: hmmmm [topgear1224] by eldaino
Aug 06, 2007 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: topgear1224 (Aug 05, 2007 11:58 pm)


 
of all the cars to mod, why supercharge an xb?
 
oh wait, you race the rough shifting accord hybrid.
 
anyone who knows anything about hybrids wouldn't try anything against an accord hybrid anyway.
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Re: hmmmm [topgear1224] by nippononly
Aug 06, 2007 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: topgear1224 (Aug 05, 2007 11:58 pm)

Holy smokes! He has 70,000 miles on a car that has been around about four months? Surely you mean 7000, not 70,000, and even then he must drive a lot!
 
I could see ordering the S/C for the xB and really wowing your friends with some drag racing. Of course, after that installation you will get about the same gas mileage as an early-90s Previa.
 
July xB sales, down 20% from last year's same-month sales. July was a down month industry-wide, and one month does not tell the story of any model on the market, but still Toyota can't be too happy.
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July sales by mackabee
Aug 06, 2007 (4:48 pm)
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Here's the breakdown.
http://www.pressroom.toyota.com/Releases/View?id=TYT2007080113917
 
Mackabee

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