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| When I got my new 08 Scion I held off paying $449 for an XM radio because I figured that I could put an XM module into the vehicle for less than that. I was told by Crutchfield that their XM modules for Pioneer Radios would not work with the XM compatible radio in the 08 Scion. They say that Toyota has made it so that you have to pay the money for their XM upgrade. Is this true? | |
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Replying to: texases (May 05, 2007 4:01 pm)
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Replying to: mcmanus (Aug 02, 2007 1:14 pm) |
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Replying to: clecayenne (Jul 23, 2007 4:13 pm)  You can see the true evolution of the bB (xB) at www.nihoncar.com or on Toyota's Japan website: www.toyota.co.jp Don't get me wrong. I sell Toyotas and Scions and they are great cars for the money. I just hate what Toyota/Scion USA does to our market sometimes.  Mack
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 02, 2007 6:41 pm)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 03, 2007 5:28 am)  Mackabee
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 03, 2007 10:39 am) Quote from: http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/12930/first-drive-2008-scion-xb.html They are not on the same platform. The have a different wheel base, different wheel bolt pattern (tC is 5X100, 2008 xB is 5X114.3), different brakes (2008 xB uses Rav4 rotors), etc. This is off of Edmunds: Exterior tC xB Length 174 in. 167.3 in. Height 55.7 in. 63 in. Wheel Base 106.3 in. 102.4 in. According to Autotrader, the tC's compression ratio is 9.6 and it has an 4-wheel independent suspension. Also according to Autotrader, the 2008 xB's compression ratio is 9.8 and it has an independent front suspension. The rear is a torsion beam type, I know because I have looked under my car. From trdsparks.com, you can see the independent rear suspension of the tC in this PDF (scroll down). http://www.trdsparks.com/install/19425inst.pdf Here are some pictures of the NON-independent 2008 xB rear suspension. http://www.scionevolution.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14583 I agree the tC is based on the Avensis...but the 2008 xB is not. Unless you figure out how to copy-paste this "literature" or maybe take a screenshot (hit the "Print Screen" button and go to edit->paste in MSpaint, save as .jpg file).
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 03, 2007 12:53 pm) I take what CarandDriver says with a grain of salt. I cancelled my subscription to them a long time ago. What I said was the tC is based on the Avensis and the NA xB is just a four door tC. Look at the styling cues! Sure they have a different rear suspension but the chassis, frame, and subframes are the same. Mack
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 03, 2007 3:39 pm) One of MANY examples is the Honda Pilot / Acura MDX / Honda Odyssey / Honda Ridgeline. They are all on the same platform. Most of them look NOTHING alike. The xB only has a front subframe, not a rear, so if they are shared, there is only one. (I don't know if they are shared, I don't have a tC to compare and cannot find pictures offhand) Also, there is no "frame" as they are both unibody cars. Assuming you are referring to the unibody when you say "chassis", there would still have to be massive modifications to the chassis to go from tC to xB. The wheelbase is 4" shorter, the roof is much higher (all of this is included in the unibody). I am sure whichever car the xB is based on required significant modifications, it is not "the same" as any car. The Auris is within 1" in length and has an IDENTICAL wheelbase. It has a strut front and torsion beam rear suspension, JUST LIKE THE xB. From: http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/news/publish/AURIS_THE_NEW_TOYOTA.shtml To convert mm to inches, divide by 25.4. Look, I really don't mean to offend you, but I would tend to believe well established news sources (though they have been wrong in the past) before I would take the word of a disembodied voice from the internet.
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 04, 2007 6:02 am) That's just like saying "with all due respect". I am hardly a "disembodied voice from the internet." I've been on these forums since their inception and am well respected by other users and the hosts. Some of them have valued my insight and opinions so much that they've become customers. If you don't want to believe what I say that's your prerogative, and I'm ok with that. If you still have doubts go to my carspace and check it out. Mack
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