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2008 Scion Xb

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Re: there is [eldaino] by jaxs1
Jul 24, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 24, 2007 6:20 am)

It isn't a problem unless they didn't also have ones without options available. The $20,000 one may just be a model to visualize to people what they could order.
You said they also had ones under $18K with hubcaps, so there isn't anything to complain about.
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Re: there is [jaxs1] by eldaino
Jul 24, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Jul 24, 2007 6:28 am)

i'm not complaining, just illustrating how no one would want to pay that much for an xb, regardless of what it offers.
 
and yes, it was the factory sticker, not the dealer add-ons type.
 
  complaining...i'm so not in the market for an xb.
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XM Radio by ehapgood
Jul 29, 2007 (9:22 am)
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When I got my new 08 Scion I held off paying $449 for an XM radio because I figured that I could put an XM module into the vehicle for less than that. I was told by Crutchfield that their XM modules for Pioneer Radios would not work with the XM compatible radio in the 08 Scion. They say that Toyota has made it so that you have to pay the money for their XM upgrade. Is this true?
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Re: 6" drop doesn't make sense [texases] by mcmanus
Aug 02, 2007 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: texases (May 05, 2007 4:01 pm)

I believe that the 4.5 inch and 6 inch drop for interior space was a misprint, so relax and try it for yourself.
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Re: 6" drop doesn't make sense [mcmanus] by texases
Aug 02, 2007 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: mcmanus (Aug 02, 2007 1:14 pm)

I did, there's a message somewhere here about it - yes, it must be a misprint, with the adjustable seat I had plent of headroom, and there are very few vehicles I can say that about. It's on my short list.
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Re: I liked the old one [clecayenne] by mackabee
Aug 02, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: clecayenne (Jul 23, 2007 4:13 pm)

If you go to Japan you can get the true bB and not the new modified tC four door wagon they are pawning off on us as the "new xB" You can see the true evolution of the bB (xB) at www.nihoncar.com or on Toyota's Japan website: www.toyota.co.jp
 
Don't get me wrong. I sell Toyotas and Scions and they are great cars for the money. I just hate what Toyota/Scion USA does to our market sometimes.
 
Mack
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Re: I liked the old one [mackabee] by bigfieroman
Aug 03, 2007 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 02, 2007 6:41 pm)

The new xB has very little relation to the tC. In fact, the only part that is shared is the transmission, and it is also shared with the Camry, etc. (albeit with a different final drive ratio) Even the engine is somewhat changed; it has a slightly different compression ratio and a revised head. The chassis has no relation to the tC, it is based off the European-market Auris; which I believe has relation to the Corolla (or will to the 2008 model).
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Re: I liked the old one [bigfieroman] by mackabee
Aug 03, 2007 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 03, 2007 5:28 am)

No. The tC is based on the Avensis which is sold throughout the world. The NA xB is built on the same chassis, subframe, front axle, rear axle, uses the same engine and transmission. I have the literature to prove it but I would have to give you my password to get in. The Auris is a cousin of the Corolla but it's not the Corolla we will be getting for 2009. The 2008 Corolla is unchanged from the 2007 and has been on dealers lots for over a month now.
 Mackabee
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Re: I liked the old one [mackabee] by bigfieroman
Aug 03, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 03, 2007 10:39 am)

"The xB rides on an all-new platform similar to that of the Auris, Toyota’s funky European hatchback. This platform is larger than that of the Japanese Toyota bB on which the first-generation xB was based."
 
Quote from:
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/12930/first-drive-2008-scion-xb.html
 
They are not on the same platform. The have a different wheel base, different wheel bolt pattern (tC is 5X100, 2008 xB is 5X114.3), different brakes (2008 xB uses Rav4 rotors), etc. This is off of Edmunds:
 
Exterior tC xB
Length 174 in. 167.3 in.
Height 55.7 in. 63 in.
Wheel Base 106.3 in. 102.4 in.
 
According to Autotrader, the tC's compression ratio is 9.6 and it has an 4-wheel independent suspension.
 
Also according to Autotrader, the 2008 xB's compression ratio is 9.8 and it has an independent front suspension. The rear is a torsion beam type, I know because I have looked under my car.
 
From trdsparks.com, you can see the independent rear suspension of the tC in this PDF (scroll down).
 
http://www.trdsparks.com/install/19425inst.pdf
 
Here are some pictures of the NON-independent 2008 xB rear suspension.
 
http://www.scionevolution.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14583
 
I agree the tC is based on the Avensis...but the 2008 xB is not. Unless you figure out how to copy-paste this "literature" or maybe take a screenshot (hit the "Print Screen" button and go to edit->paste in MSpaint, save as .jpg file).
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Re: I liked the old one [bigfieroman] by mackabee
Aug 03, 2007 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: bigfieroman (Aug 03, 2007 12:53 pm)

I am a Master Certified Toyota/Scion sales consultant. All my info comes straight from the source (the manufacturer).
    I take what CarandDriver says with a grain of salt. I cancelled my subscription to them a long time ago.
    What I said was the tC is based on the Avensis and the NA xB is just a four door tC. Look at the styling cues!
    Sure they have a different rear suspension but the chassis, frame, and subframes are the same.
 
 Mack

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