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Scion xB, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, Hatchback
#1 of 312 2008 Scion Xb
Feb 08, 2007 (3:06 pm)
Scion just announced the new Xb at Chicago.
Looks very interesting.
I do have two concerns though. What do they have against cruise control? It costs hardly anything to add, and is not a polorizing option like sunroof leather and some others - where people will not buy the vehicle if it is present. I can't imagine a car having cruise being a dealbreaker for anybody.
Second thing is the new engine. Yes more power is welcome, but I fear they took it too far. If it has the same engine and tranny it will use about as much fuel as a TC, which is more than a V-6 Accord or Camry on the highway. I hope they gear it like the Camry and not like the Tc. A 1.8 from the Corolla would have given a welcome power boost and would probably have increased mileage as well.
Feb 08, 2007 (6:10 pm)
Well - looks like one of my issues was taken care of. Cruise is now standard on the xB. I was worried because there was no mention of it in the initial press releases.
Now if the fuel economy/gearing is there it should work out.
Interesting how they switched the height and length in the specs - I guess everybody makes mistakes.
Here is more info.
#3 of 312 the xB engine
Feb 09, 2007 (8:42 am)
anyone here thinks the 2.4 is an overkill?
I thought instead of giving us a 5 dr yaris, xB and xD (where is xP?) are two different flavors we'll be getting. The 1.8 is great since it should deliver great mileage and it's proven in corollas. But I'm not so sure about the 2.4.
I wonder if toyota's marketing research found that people who had bought xB like to have a big block in their mircrocars?
I hope toyota will offer the 1.2 diesel they stuff in their europe yaris. If there is anywhere in their lineup where a modern diesel engine would be welcomed, this is it.
#4 of 312 Re: the xB engine [nwng]
Feb 09, 2007 (9:37 am)
The 2.4L can be very efficient when mated to an economy geared tranny. Reference the 3300lb Camry 5M with its very respectable rating of 24/34.
#5 of 312 xB engine: Camry or Celica?
Feb 09, 2007 (11:14 am)
I read that the new xB's engine is the same as that in the tC. Some also say that it's the same as in the Camry. I had thought the tC used the outgoing Celica's engine. So is the new xB using a Camry or Celica engine? Or are those two the same thing after all?
#6 of 312 Re: the xB engine [alpha01]
Feb 09, 2007 (11:32 am)
Actually it's the same engine and tranny from the Tc. The Tc is rated lower at 23/30. I would have much rather preferred the corolla engine in the new xB. Wonder why they sacrificed fuel economy this round?
Feb 09, 2007 (3:11 pm)
Yes - I would have also much preferred the Corolla 1.8 like the xD has. It would have still been much more powerfull than the old engine, and would get excellent mpg.
I just hope the car gets Camry gearing not Tc gearing.
To me the whole advantage of a car like this is to have all that room and excellent mpg. If it gets about the same mpg as a V-6 Camry, RAV 4 or a Subaru Outback with AWD, then what is the point?
#8 of 312 new B
Feb 09, 2007 (4:38 pm)
So it does have cruise? Great. Surely they wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
I like the 2.4 in the B. Plenty of grunt when it's loaded with people and cargo. And for those who want better mpg, there's the 1.8 in the D. I like the changes.
I also like the new center mounted gauges. For me, the old B was too small with too small an engine and no cruise. Now it's something I'll consider.
Feb 10, 2007 (1:40 pm)
any idea when one could obtain a new 2008 xB? i emailed scion in hopes they could tell me. i'm escatic . i had a 2005 and really didn't care too much for it. got a civic. but willing to reconsider now! the console is awesome . oh and now comes with an armrest.
#10 of 312 I like the changes but where's the tC style roof?
Feb 10, 2007 (8:47 pm)
I like the 2.4 if the gearing is right, and the xD will be offered with the 1.8 for those who want an economy wagon.
The equipment level seems OK for the price (if cruise is finally included - but I didn't see it either). What seems to be missing is a factory power moonroof option, presumably to cut production costs, although it was available on the Matrix which the xD was supposed to be based on.
It's too bad, the xB would have been really awesome with a big factory "Skyroof" with all that flat metal. It would have made it seem like a real nice little "GT" well-equipped wagon, something missing from the competitive market.
I'm sure there are a lot of folks who would not agree with me, and think moonroofs are an unnecessary luxury on a vehicle in this price class, but I think they really improve the spaciousness, ventilation, and fun factor, and when the cost is amortized over the life of the car, it is a well-spent value.