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What Are Your Thoughts on the Return of the Taurus/Sable?

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What is this discussion about? Ford Five Hundred, Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Future Vehicle, Sedan, Wagon


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Re: Five Hundred vs new Taurus FE [barnstormer64] by gregg_vw
Dec 20, 2007 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Dec 19, 2007 7:47 pm)

Yes, and that's not nearly enough to offset the higher initial price for the Camry. So the Sable is the better financial deal. However, again, owner satisfaction is a factor too, but that is hard to quantify in dollars.
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Taurus vs Sable by ronsmith38
Jan 12, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Is anyone buying the Sable? Maybe it would be a mistake if Mercury is going the way of Plymouth and Oldsmobile. It seems if the Sables in my area are optioned more to my liking. It is hard to find a Taurus Limited around here without the moonroof or chrome wheels, and with the ESC feature. The largest Taurus dealer has about 50 in stock, but only 2 with ESC, both with options I don't want.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [ronsmith38] by izaclown1
Jan 12, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Jan 12, 2008 2:42 pm)

I was roaming around the local L/M new car lot. I was looking at the sticker prices and the mpg. The GM seems to be a better deal than a Sable. V8 vs V6 and probably a better ride. Possibly more reliable. Basically same mpg. I was more intersted in the Sable, but when I looked at the diffreences, the GM won out in my opinion.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [izaclown1] by thegraduate
Jan 12, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: izaclown1 (Jan 12, 2008 5:21 pm)

Basically same mpg.
Since when is 5 miles per gallon "basically the same?"
 
(referring to the MGM) V8 vs V6 and probably a better ride. Possibly more reliable
 
Possibly less reliable. Speculation with no basis doesn't help anybody in reality. That V8 is slower and much more thirsty than the Sable's V6, making it a detriment, not an advantage.
 
Due to the ancient suspension and powertrain (well, the whole car is incredibly dated), I'd be willing to bet that the Taurus/Sable accelerate faster (they have more power and a better transmission to run through : 6 gears vs. 4), get better economy (the EPA found that the Grand Marquis got 3 MPG less than the Sable in town, 5 MPG less on the highway), and due to the independent suspension in the Sable, it's ride and handling are a lot better controlled and much less floaty than the old girl.
 
The Sable weighs 500 lbs less and is nearly a foot shorter in overall length (important for parking in length-restricted garages), yet manages to be more roomy.
 
The Grand Marquis is a big car, but the Sable/Taurus offers more combined legroom front and rear, as well as more trunk space. The dated interior design in the MGM is a tough sell against the Sable as well. There's a reason Mercury is dumping more than half of these vehicles to fleets - they just aren't competitive with anything these days.
 
If you are getting a Grand Marquis for $15k or so, it's probably a good buy. A Taurus can be had for less than $20k however, and is a much better vehicle overall.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [thegraduate] by izaclown1
Jan 13, 2008 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 12, 2008 5:58 pm)

There is the space difference. The stickers had listed the same gas mileage 28 highway. I have not tried to get in the new ones, but my TC (longer wheel length than GM) was much better ride and everything than our 2000 Sable. But, I guess I am partial to the bigger cars... How many Sables and GM do you see in the services bays for major problems compared to the other models of cars L/M puts out? The Sables and GM are usually in for oil changes and regular maintenance. The others had so may electrical and other problems. Based on sticker price the GM is less money for the Sable for the same equipment.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [izaclown1] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2008 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: izaclown1 (Jan 13, 2008 6:06 pm)

The stickers had listed the same gas mileage 28 highway. I have not tried to get in the new ones, but my TC (longer wheel length than GM) was much better ride and everything than our 2000 Sable.
 
Hold it; you're talking about a 2000 Sable - a COMPLETELY different car made to compete with the likes of Accord, Camry, Oldsmobile Intrigue, etc... the midsize players. It was not made to compete against the full sizers (at the time these included vehicles like the Buick Park Avenue) in power/ride/equipment. The 2008 Sable is a completely different animal - so much so that the old Sable (which was based off of a design that debuted in 1995 as a 1996 model) should not even be in the same sentence as the new one.
 
Also, keep in mind that the Town Car will have different tuning, therefore different ride and handling than the Grand Marquis. A Honda Accord and an Acura TL are on the same platform as well, but they drive like two very different cars.
 
Based on sticker price the GM is less money for the Sable for the same equipment.
 
If all a car is to you is a list of equipment and a price, then the GM is all yours. I've already listed the ways in which the Sable beats the Grand Marquis at its own game - power, economy, room, smaller exterior, technology, driving experience in general. Even on paper, the Sable excels in most areas. The only thing the GM has going for it is price and a dated design which people who hate change deem as a "safe" choice - because its the same technology and design that's been around forever.
 
Does the Grand Marquis offer 6 airbags or Stability Control (not talking about traction control - that's a different thing)?
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [thegraduate] by ronsmith38
Jan 13, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2008 7:33 pm)

My original post was to inquire if there was any difference between the 2008 Taurus and the 2008 Sable, and any advantage of buying one over the other.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [ronsmith38] by thegraduate
Jan 13, 2008 (8:59 pm)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Jan 13, 2008 8:53 pm)

I saw that and understand that. Since I can't tell too much difference in them, I didn't respond to your post. I responded to the post below yours, which was on a different topic (although for some reason it was "replying" to yours).
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [ronsmith38] by brucelinc
Jan 14, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Jan 13, 2008 8:53 pm)

Other than minor styling differences, they are the same car. Mercury is not selling well and there are pretty persistent rumors that the marque will go the way of Oldsmobile. For that reason, I would (and did) go with the Taurus. There are some awesome deals out there on it, too.
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Re: Taurus vs Sable [thegraduate] by jeyhoe
Jan 14, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 13, 2008 7:33 pm)

"The 2008 Sable is a completely different animal - so much so that the old Sable (which was based off of a design that debuted in 1995 as a 1996 model) should not even be in the same sentence as the new one."
 
Another reason the name change from Montego was STOOPID.

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