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#442 of 530 And the sale keep going down
Nov 03, 2007 (12:51 pm)
October 2006 sales were bad for Ford. They had by then fully dumped the 2006-07 last run Taurus fleet machines. The Edge was being sold and the "new" Expedition was out as well. The Fusion had a yeer under its belt already. And sales for this October? Down another 16.4%. Nice going, guys. At least Mercury went up for a change, but that poor little division (with less than half the sales of GM's struggling Pontiac division) has nowhere to go other than up (or out).
Hey, think maybe that 08 Focus thing will turn it around??
#443 of 530 Re: And the sale keep going down [gregg_vw]
Nov 03, 2007 (2:38 pm)
"Hey, think maybe that 08 Focus thing will turn it around?? "
Only if they recapture all the good feelings from the past and rename it the 'Pinto'.
Ford says their sales are down because they've reduced their fleet sales! How long are they going to use this excuse??? Wait'll the new Malibu starts to canibalize Taurus and Fusion sales. The Malibu is SOOOO much better than the Fusion inside and out.
So, I guess the brilliant idea of renaming the 2 blandmobiles STILL isn't working out for Mr Mulally? Well, maybe he shouldda asked ME.
Review of the NEW 2008 Edge is out. Edmunds likes it EXCEPT THE BRAKES STILL SUCK.
Oh, Ford just started another round of buyouts. Anyone with an ounce of talent better line up for this one cause a large percentage of Chrysler employees are going to be knocking on GM's door as well. Last chance for a job in the auto industry. Unless u speak Korean or Chinese.
After the latest group of Ford workers leaves, they'll miss the introduction of the new Great Ford Hope - the station wagon/minivan/crossover/stupidly named Ford Flex. Why, that'll save the company won't it? Another answer to a question no one was asking. Find a '63 Falcon station wagon and you dont have to wait for a Flex-mobile.
And as for Mercury - when you're selling squat, you've no where to go but up.
#444 of 530 Re: The RAV4 [gregg_vw]
Nov 03, 2007 (6:23 pm)
The new Mercedes diesel engine, also used in the Grand Cherokee, belches no smoke, is clean, doesn't have the old "diesel rattle," and has better power/torque and mileage than the comparable gas engine. What's not to like?
Besides the fact it's a Mercedes?
#445 of 530 Re: The RAV4 [gregg_vw]
Nov 03, 2007 (6:24 pm)
Sure, diesels are not a panacea. They are more expensive, and diesel fuel is as well. But an honest 45-50 mpg from a roomy sedan offsets some of that. The point is, more choices is a good thing, when gas supplies are tight.
But unless the total cost of ownership is less, then it's a bit pointless to get one. That's the problem with the Prius. Just get a Corolla with the 4-cylinder and stick-shift, instead. Unless you just wanna sound like a golf cart at city-driving speeds, that is.
#446 of 530 Re: The RAV4 [barnstormer64]
Nov 04, 2007 (7:14 am)
Well of course. But the point is with petroleum prices going through the roof and supply questions and speculation driving costs up, the cost equation is going to change. If you can get more miles from fewer gallons with gas going above $4, $5, $6 per gallon, you will see the $1,000 to $2,000 initial purchase penalty for the diesel version over the gas engine amortized more quickly. In addition, there is the unfactored payback of using less resources to get from point A to point B in the same relative comfort.
Hybrids remain questionable in that regard of course. Making the batteries and their disposal may currently be harder on the environment than driving the straight gas version. And until we stop using food sources for E85, that intelligence of that industry remains questionable.
#449 of 530 2008 Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
Nov 12, 2007 (8:32 am)
Should not the 2008 Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable have a separate discussion group in the sedan forums since they are completely different from the previous versions?
#450 of 530 Re: 2008 Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable [ronsmith38]
Nov 12, 2007 (8:36 am)
I believe this thread sort-of functions as that discussion at this point.
Nov 14, 2007 (4:12 pm)
I have said that I thought the new Taurus was a screaming value. I just put my money where my mouth is and bought a 2008 SEL to replace my wife's 2001 Taurus. She will be the daily driver of the new one.
We spent a lot of time comparing and test driving the Taurus and the Fusion. At first, my wife liked the Fusion better because it is sportier and of similar size to her old Taurus. I have had 4 cyl Fusions as rentals and thought the 4 cyl was rough, noisy, and underpowered. The V6 Fusion is a whole different animal and we were both impressed with it. I really liked the crisp handling and the ride is very good.
Before driving a new Taurus, my wife thought it was too big and an "old man's car." After driving it back to back with a Fusion, however, she came to the same realization that I did. In terms of ride, quiet, performance, feel, and general refinement, the Taurus seems like $10,000 more car. We also drove a 2007 Ford 500 since they are nearly giving them away. The Taurus feels like $10,000 more car than a 500, too, IMO.
Anyway, if you can get past the bulbous, homely exterior, I still think the Taurus is the most competitive product in Ford's lineup and meets or beats any competitor in it's price level. Less than 20 grand buys a heck of a car.