Last post on Aug 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM
You are in the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
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Ford Five Hundred, Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Future Vehicle, Sedan, Wagon
#322 of 530 OK...
Aug 21, 2007 (5:48 pm)
I liked the Five Hundred... but when the Taurus was discontinued... I was shocked. Then I sat in a 2008 Taurus. I love it. My only gripe is the grille. It looks good on the Fusion, and the F-Series trucks, but not on this, and definitely NOT the Edge.
I think they should have just called the Fusion, "Taurus,", renamed the Focus ,"Fusion" and called the Five Hundred, "500" (number is on badges, not words).
Ford's got the hang, but they need an edge- like the Freestar. All it really needed was 2nd-row power windows, and a split third-row. Maybe headlamp washers.
Oh, and TAURUS X is a ****** name. I hate it. Maybe 'Ford 500 Fantasy.'
#323 of 530 Re: OK... [jmn1]
Aug 22, 2007 (5:34 am)
I like the name. Says exactly what it is: a Taurus wagon with all wheel drive.
#324 of 530 Re: OK... [gregg_vw]
Aug 22, 2007 (6:35 am)
Okay, but "Ford Taurus X" and a trim, "Ford Taurus X Limited All-Wheel Drive" sounds strange.
#325 of 530 Re: OK... [jmn1]
Aug 22, 2007 (6:58 am)
Aug 22, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Why not "Taurus 500"? (remember the Galaxy 500?) See post 293
Aug 24, 2007 (5:56 am)
It may be helpful to remember that someone at Ford named a son and a car Edsel, so 500 and the rebirth of the Taurus should come as no shock. The 500, excuse me, Five Hundred name was weak. Taurus is a bygone era which Ford should have left in the past IMHO. The new Taurus even looks like a Taurus as compared to the Five Hundred. Possibly the grill does this? Still, with some inherited Volvo technology, it is a compelling car.
#328 of 530 Re: OK... [david_v1234]
Aug 24, 2007 (11:14 am)
#329 of 530 Re: OK... [david_v1234]
Aug 27, 2007 (8:50 am)
I think what has happend to some companies is they listened to the automotive journals too much and are now getting re-introduced into the mainstream. Auomotive journals are always saying things like "this deserves a new name" as a new car. I think Honda and Toyota has shown what a name can do for a car for decades - civic,accord, corrola, camry... as long as you keep it up to date during mid cycle refreshes and when the cars are redisgned. Also, some cars are praised no matter what they do, while others are criticized for the same traits. For example, in recent years, toyotas and hondas have cheapened the interiors and have had more issues with squeeks and rattles. Especially honda, there is very little soft touch surfaces in any honda product, and interior gaps and panel alignment can be horrible. You hear about this a little from consumer magazines, but they don't get as critical as others. Where is the outrage?
I have owned foreign until I just bought my 2008 Ford Taurus, and the fit and finish is better than any toyota or honda I drove, and looks and feels like a VW/Audi product in some respects. There are some shortcuts and issues, which cars in this price range all have. Some point out that the Taurus has no manual shift capabilites with its new 6 speed automatic. Well, others have the same issue (Accords never had it - not even the new 2008), so why is it just a Ford issue? How many people are out there manually shifting their automatics. (I had this in my previous 2 Audis and VW, but only used it to see what it was like, then never touched it again.)
I think Ford is doing the right thing using he Taurus name, as long as they keep it up to date, and do mid cycle and totally new vehicles on the same rotation as the competitors. Otherwise, they will not be able to maintain the momentum they are building with recent offerings. Even Ford reliability ratings are up in consumer reports (the Lincoln MKZ/MKX which use the same engine/transmission/all wheel drive system as the Taurus is the second ranked overall in recent reliability ratings by consumer reports just behng the Lexus ES350, and the Ford fusion/Mecury Milan is not far behind that.)
I am really shocked I bought a Ford, but this car reminds me of my Audi A6 V6 I owned from 1999-2002, with a relaxing drive and steering like it is on rails. The Parelli P6 tires can get noisy on concrete roads, but there is little difference, if any, betweem the 17s and 18s I drove. (I have the limited with the 18" chrome clad wheels and AWD).
Everyone has a preference, and some may not like the understated interior of the Taurus, but it is consistent with my previous cars (Audi and VW). Plus, I just do not care for the silver and grey painted plastics that Honda, Toyota and Hyundai are using, as it looks and feels very cheap. Especially the radio cover in the Avalon. (I doubt you'd ever see that on a Lexus!)
#330 of 530 Re: OK... [dzier217]
Aug 27, 2007 (11:51 am)
dzier217, you have articulated some compelling points. I have not compared the Accord/Camry/Taurus as you have done will take your word. And yes, the Accord and Camry nameplates have been with us a while. But Ford abandoned the Taurus name and replaced it with the ill-conceived name, Five Hundred. Now, all of a sudden, the same car, with refinements, is a Taurus. I do not object to the Taurus name but let's face it: the new Taurus has borrowed safety technology from Volvo and the new powerplant is exciting. The former Taurus was staid and outdated by comparison. Ford has done much with the Five Hundred/2008 Taurus, but the name Taurus belies the advances which have been incorporated into the old name.
As lacking as the name Five Hundred was, I would prefer that they kept it.
#331 of 530 Re: OK... [dzier217]
Aug 28, 2007 (3:24 pm)
I think you'll love your Taurus.
I just hope that Ford continues to follow they Path they started with the Fusion and the Mustang. Each year there is improvements in the Fusion...(more standard equipment) and Mustang (more interior options, more wheel options).
I think Ford is learning that you have to make things better constantly.
Ford is even making improvements in the middle of the model year. For 2007 Fusions, Job 2 featured upgraded structure to get better IIHS crash scores.
I think Alan M. is going to force Ford to do things in a new way. He has the clout and I think that every body that might have stood in his way got a "buy out" (Ford Speak for s***t canned).