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What Are Your Thoughts on the Return of the Taurus/Sable?

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#227 of 530 Re: Image [barnstormer64] by albook Feb 22, 2007 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: barnstormer64 (Feb 21, 2007 7:14 pm) And then, of course, there are those who'll pay even MORE for a Lexus, to basically get some gold lettering for the car name on the back of the vehicle. THey actually get a lot more comfort and technology in lexus than toyota, which is more than I can say for lincoln vs ford. But then again, the step from ford's short comings to toyota's refinement makes the step from toyo to lexus look miniscule.
#228 of 530 Re: Good Move [barnstormer64] by albook Feb 22, 2007 (2:16 pm)
Replying to: barnstormer64 (Feb 21, 2007 7:17 pm) I actually LIKE the 500's looks. And the 300? I would've only got it for the Hemi . . but the trunk is a lot smaller, and it's a real PITA to look out of. Visibility is very poor. I would give up visibility (and I know that is a LLOT of itcompared to the huge 500 windows) for better quality build, features and luxury and style of the 300. SO looking at the 300 (not C, just touring) you actually are even, and if you do pay $500 less for your five hun. your buying a cheaper car-and I don't mean by monetary standards. Back to looks. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so lets step to common ground. The 300 has a fresh new look. THe Five (man is that stupid how they spell it!) hundred is very old in style, comparable to that of the first taurus. Not good. image isn't really that important, and getting your money's worth is the main stream, but true value is geting the most for your money. Why buy a dollar cheeseburger from Mcdonalds when for 50 cents more, you can get a value menu with fries and a softdrink? YOu'll end up spending another dollar on a burger somewhere else, 'cause your still hungry! Replies to this message: barnstormer64 (Feb 22, 2007 7:11 pm) albook (Feb 23, 2007 2:17 pm)
#229 of 530 Re: Good Move [gregg_vw] by nvbanker Feb 22, 2007 (4:22 pm)
Replying to: gregg_vw (Feb 22, 2007 12:07 pm) Driving a Kia Rio for you would be "penny wise, pound foolish." Precisely. Besides, I've driven a Rio - the check engine light came on.   On the other hand, one could drive an Audi A8 (at $70,000) or a Bentley Flying Spur (at $170,000) and not see any payback for that extra $100,000. That choice is just personal preference, and how much extension of a personal appendage one thinks he needs to buy   The law of diminishing return applies here - In my case, the Lexus is just about the perfect car for my needs - it has the value proposition in the resale value, it has the image I need, without squandering money ( I actually don't have ) for a Bentley, which would only connote an obscene amount of ego in my case, not success.   For my kids - an Oldsmobile will do - if they want an image car, they can work for it. As a student - struggling, poor and practical is the image they SHOULD have..... I actually get disgusted when I pass the high school parking lot and see it full of BMWs..... Those kids are clearly headed for USC (The University of Spoiled Children). Replies to this message: bristol2 (Feb 22, 2007 6:07 pm) gtee (Feb 22, 2007 6:41 pm)
#230 of 530 Re: Good Move [nvbanker] by bristol2 Feb 22, 2007 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Feb 22, 2007 4:22 pm) For my kids - an Oldsmobile will do - if they want an image car, they can work for it.   No kidding, you only get to worry about the image of the car you get to worry about making the payments on! Replies to this message: gtee (Feb 22, 2007 6:41 pm)
#231 of 530 Re: Good Move [bristol2] by gtee Feb 22, 2007 (6:41 pm)
Replying to: bristol2 (Feb 22, 2007 6:07 pm) So I think that we all agree that the image of the car is important to most people. If image was not important to people, then why would they buy SUV's instead of minivans for their families. I own both a Ford Expedition and a Honda Minivan. Trust me, the Honda minivan is a more practical vehicle for a family with kids. Its even bigger inside than a Ford and gets better gas millage, and yet I prefer to drive the SUV because of minivan image.   But lets get back to discussing the name change from Ford 500 to Taurus. Does it change the image of this car? I don't think so. Ford needs to do something a lot more drastic than a name change to come back from the brink of bankruptcy.
#232 of 530 Re: Good Move [bristol2] by barnstormer64 Feb 22, 2007 (7:08 pm)
Replying to: bristol2 (Feb 22, 2007 6:48 am) Any lawyer who drives a yaris would not be the guy I want representing me. If the CEO of my company shows up in a Civic, I'm not sure that suggests success.   I think I'd rather use a different metric to judge their success. But you can use what car they drive, if that's how you really feel.
#233 of 530 Re: Value vs Image [thegraduate] by barnstormer64 Feb 22, 2007 (7:09 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 22, 2007 9:28 am) That's one opinion, but it's not necessarily the only one   But it's the only right one.
#234 of 530 Re: Good Move [albook] by barnstormer64 Feb 22, 2007 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: albook (Feb 22, 2007 2:16 pm) The 300 has a fresh new look   Which impressed me for a few months. But now it's kinda sickening to look at, actually. Replies to this message: albook (Feb 23, 2007 2:17 pm)
#235 of 530 Re: Value vs Image [gtee] by barnstormer64 Feb 22, 2007 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: gtee (Feb 21, 2007 8:20 pm) IntelliChoice list the cost of 5 years of ownership of 2007 Ford 500 limited as $38,126 .    Again from IntelliChoice the cost for 5 years of ownership of a 2007 Toyota Avalon XLS is: $37,711   They're making one HECK of a lot of assumptions, aren't they?   Why not look at the 2005 models? And then use what I actually paid in the calculation, instead of whatever they assumed? Replies to this message: gtee (Feb 22, 2007 7:57 pm)
#236 of 530 Re: Value vs Image [barnstormer64] by gtee Feb 22, 2007 (7:57 pm)
Replying to: barnstormer64 (Feb 22, 2007 7:13 pm) I don't know which assumptions they used, but when I look at my own experience with Ford Expedition, I can tell you that it was no great deal overall. Yes I paid way less for Expedition then I would have paid for Toyota Sequoia. But now when its time to trade it in for a new car, the Expedition is worth nothing. Its almost embarrassing to admit to a dealer that you have Expedition to trade. Nobody wants them. Again its this whole image issue. Ford just has a really bad image and many people just avoid Ford cars. They are truly afraid to buy them. A friend of mine has a Ford Explorer with 200k miles on it, and its still running. But when he goes to buy a new car he is looking for Toyota or Honda. I don't know how things got so bad for Ford.

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