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Sedans Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable What Are Your Thoughts on the Return of the Taurus/Sable?
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Feb 21, 2007 1:51 pm)
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Replying to: lakerunner4h (Feb 21, 2007 2:12 pm) The Avalon still have some better stuff than 500/Taurus. The interior design is about 10 times as nice, and so is the steering wheel and gauges. Reclining rear seats; push button remote start; rain-sensing wipers, and many more small features are available on the Avalon. This makes the Avalon feel like a Lexus. |
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Feb 20, 2007 7:29 pm) Value isn't as simple as that. An Acura MDX might cost the same as an Expllorer. That desn't mean that they are eqaull in quality. But enough of that endless circle of oppinion. Let's talk about why you would buy this car. Ford sells it on interior space and comfort ()It's only benefits for the time being) But room in competitors like the 300/ Charger and Avalom, and Lucerne are just as as good. So is trunk space- not as good, but close. Luxury ain't great in upscale brother -Montego (believe me, I know! And it looks boring and awkward. Why get something that you don't like to look at- And i hate that ugly bubble top!-whn you can have good looking like the 300? I'd say why not spend the same amount on an Avalon, get a nicer beter lookking car than the 500 (and it's dumb that they spell it!) and actually get some money back when you trade the car in?!
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I think that some people on this discussion board under appreciate the power of Brand Image. The only difference between a Timex watch and a Rolex watch is image. I am sure that they both keep very accurate time, but one costs 100 times more then the other. Why? Because of Image. Right now Ford cars have a "Poor Man's car" Image. Why buy a Timex (Ford 500) when for just 20% more price, you can get a Rolex (Toyota Avalon). As far as Ford 500 competing with Avalon or Lucerne or 300, I just don't see how that is possible. The 500 is in entirely lower price class then these cars. I can see comparing 500 with Chevy Impala. In fact I always thought that 500 was Ford's answer to Impala. Just take a look at resale prices. I compared Edmund's trade in values for 500, Impala, Toyota Camry and Avalon and Honda Accord for 2005 model year. 2005 Ford 500 Limited = $13999 trade in 2005 Chevy Impala SS = $13555 trade in 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS = $17371 trade in 2005 Toyota Camry XLE = $16400 trade in 2005 Honda Accord EXV6 = $18029 trade in So just based on prices of 1/2 year old models, I would say that Ford 500 competes with Impala, its definitely not in the same price class as Camry/Accord/Avalon on the used car lot. I guess its that image thing again which contributes to low resale values.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 20, 2007 8:27 pm) But things don't have to increase in value to "make money". I feel I'm paying LESS for a car of equal (actually, better) value to me. That saves me money. Just as if I'd made it in the stock market. |
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Replying to: gtee (Feb 21, 2007 10:08 am) Not smart people. 
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Feb 21, 2007 1:43 pm) VERY true. And then, of course, there are those who'll pay even MORE for a Lexus, to basically get some gold lettering for the car name on the back of the vehicle. 
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Replying to: albook (Feb 21, 2007 2:54 pm) I actually LIKE the 500's looks. And the 300? I would've only got it for the Hemi . . but the trunk is a lot smaller, and it's a real PITA to look out of. Visibility is very poor. As far as trade-ins, I just don't do that. I typically keep my car 8 - 10 years. So, the trade-in difference is negligible. Basically, any extra trade-in value of an Avalon after that amount of time will be less than or equal to the extra amount I would've had to pay for the car up front. So why tie up all that extra capital when I don't need to?
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Replying to: gtee (Feb 21, 2007 6:57 pm) Bad analogy, since (by our own numbers), the Rolex is 100x pricier, not 20% pricier. And in either case, why pay more for the same thing? Or even pay more for LESS? |
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Replying to: gtee (Feb 21, 2007 6:57 pm) 2005 Ford 500 Limited = $13999 trade in 2005 Chevy Impala SS = $13555 trade in 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS = $17371 trade in 2005 Toyota Camry XLE = $16400 trade in Only valid for those who trade every 2 to 3 years. Also, you need to look at how much each vehicle COST (real cost, not MSRP). The Avalon's trade-in value is 2372 more. How much more would it have cost to buy that Avalon compared to the 500 in 2005? I submit that it would've cost at LEAST that much more. In that case, the 500 is actually the BETTER value when you look at costs associated with trade-ins. You just made a common mistake by those who *think* they know what they're doing when they make this comparison. |
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