Last post on Mar 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM
You are in the Audi A6
What is this discussion about?
Audi A6, Audio, Sedan, Wagon
#17 of 51 Re: Some more questions [liferules]
Mar 11, 2007 (1:47 pm)
Since when does the Audi play DVD-audio discs?
The air suspension, as far as I know, still uses springs, but there are four air bladders that can compress and decompress the springs (ride height lowers during compression and vice versa.)
I was loaned two Q7s (for several days each time.) One had the air suspension. One did not. I also had an allroad for 3 years. I traded a 2001 A6 4.2 w/sport in on a 2003 allroad with the air suspension.
This, then, is the only basis I have to comment. My impressions may or may not be correct in the context you suggest.
The air suspension has a setting called dynamic (which seems to be the lowest of the four.) The ride height changes, the springs are more compressed, etc, as noted above.
99% of the time, I just kept the air suspension set on the lowest (the most sporty.) This statement applies to both my allroad and the Q7 so equipped.
Given a choice, here is what I would do:
Go with the S-Line setting (and save the money on the air suspension.) I loved the air suspension, but rarely changed it from the most sporting level. I had zero technical issues with the suspension, but I assume it would be expensive to repair.
The air suspension is not real time active.
A technology called Magana Ride (Delphi) is, to me, much better since it can, in real time, alter the characteristics of the car.
The audi 4 position air suspension is not a gimmick, however, it works and works well. It can be set in an automatic mode, defaulting to "comfort" and the faster the road speed, the lower the suspension is taken, the more the springs are compressed and the lower the CD of the car and the better the handling. But the change is not at all responsive in real time, it is reactive, slowly reactive, to road speed. There is no attempt to respond, for instance, to a twisty road, if the suspension compresses on a twisty road it seems to simply be based on the speed at which you are driving, not the body roll or nose dive or other real time situations.
If you want a car that can be set to be comfortable or set for firmer ride and handling, it works. It is dynamic, as advertised. It is not an active system in the sense many of us would want.
Indeed the unpowered dual diagonal hydraulic system first on the RS6 and now on the RS4 are, despite being unpowered, able to act more or less in real time -- stiffening the corner that would tend to exhibit "dive" and improving the cornering "attitude."
The air suspension, as long as you are aware of its design characteristics is a good thing.
If you are, however, expecting it to be an SLine suspension one instant and soft and comfortable the next, you will not be pleased.
If you want the handling improvements of the Sline set up and would rarely change the air suspension from "dynamic" you would probably be better off, save your money and go with the fixed Sline set up.
#18 of 51 Re: Some more questions [markcincinnati]
Mar 11, 2007 (4:48 pm)
Many thanks for the detailed answer to my question. On the suspension, that's what I was hoping.
Re my question on DVD-Audio, I probably could have been more precise. It was in two parts: Does the enhanced audio (labeled "Surround Sound") play DVD-Audio disks? Does it play anything in 5.1 format (using, for example Dolby PLII). I couldn't find it on the web site, the dealer was clueless, but the Infiniti M uses a similar Bose upgrade which does play DVD-Audio disks.
Appreciate all the help.
#19 of 51 Re: Some more questions [lansdownemike]
Mar 12, 2007 (5:04 am)
The premium sound system in the A6 is a BOSE system, at present. There are 13 speakers. Bass is good, but this is not the car's strong suit. The Infiniti and the Acura do play DVD-Audio disks. The Infiniti plays DVD-Video disks too while the car is in park with the emergency brake on.
Audi's system will offer Surround Sound (front or rear) and the surround effect can be dialed in. This mode works ONLY on Sat Radio and CD's. On AM+FM, not at all.
When you are in Sat Mode, you can bring up a setting for Normal, Surround Front or Surround Rear, if you select surround, you can "dial in" with the MMI the surround effect. It is real, it is subtle, it is in no way like adding fake echo or reverb.
It is, without using the term Dolby Pro Logic II, probably an imitation of this. The surround effect is derived, presumably from the difference signals found in the stereo source.
This is not discreet, that is. It also cannot play DTS disks and offers not other processing, e.g. THX. The system is at best an A-. Fidelity is good to very good with some disappointment vis a vis bass extension. It is good in this area -- the Infiniti it much much better, as is the Acura.
The Audi system is "decent." It will not thrill you, but it will not make you grimmace, either.
I usually give it an A-/B+ -- it is quite good based on what you feed it. Bass response can be improved slightly, but the downside is, the bass is not tight and if you try too hard, it gets muddy.
The mid and highs are very good.
This is the next to the best system, apparently, offered as a Premium system -- the Acura and Infiniti take the system to the next higher lever. Audi has teamed with B&O for high end, high buck sound, currently in the A8, and one would imagine coming soon to the A6, etc.
#20 of 51 Re: Some more questions [markcincinnati]
Mar 12, 2007 (10:44 am)
With the surround sound setting somewhere I remember reading that the recommended setting is plus 75/25rear/ft.. I have it set to the right of normal in the middle. I don't hear much difference as I rotate the knob on Sirius or CD. Perhaps it is the sound source. Any recommendations or is it personal preference?
BTW I am loving the car. A lot different than my '03 A6 2.7T. More luxury -less sport.
Liked the engine and the steering feel better on the 2.7 but I am enjoying the smoothness and refinement of the'07 and, oh yes, the tech.
#21 of 51 Re: Some more questions [allagaroo]
Mar 12, 2007 (7:12 pm)
Using a CD that you know well, perhaps one of the DEMO CD's to this day used in high end audio shops, try the sound system in normal stereo mode and then in surround front and surround rear. Dial it in the same for your demo, over and over and over until you either poop out or find something you like.
Here are some of the artists/types, that can show the surround effect to good advantage.
A "familiar" (to you) Telarc classical CD
Lots of selections from Planet Jazz
And, I'm sure there are many more -- these are some of the ones that are demo'd at "high end" sound emporiums and seem to have "difference" signals that can be decoded and can be then turned into surround sound.
I notice a "presence" in the surround modes that the stereo (normal) mode lacks. In normal mode, the bass is deeper, but can be muddy and there seems to be a lack of "openness" that materializes in one of the surround modes. I currently have settled on surround rear at +75% surround effect.
This system needs a good sub woofer.
Yet, overall, this is an excellent, if not quite top tier, system. Or, a good top tier system.
After the Acura or Infiniti system, however, it does make one wonder if you really need to upgrade to the $8,000 B&O system. The BMW upgrades do seem to have some of the same issues that the Audi system has.
In any case, even though it might seem otherwise, I am satisfied with the Audi BOSE system. But, I do listen to lots of Sirius Sat Radio, and there are limitations to its fidelity and dynamic range that even the best systems can only improve so much.
#22 of 51 Re: Some more questions [markcincinnati]
Mar 13, 2007 (5:41 am)
Thanks for the terrific advice Mark. I'm enjoying the tech. features and busy setting up name tags etc. and learning how to use all the toys. Car is only with me 2 weeks.
#23 of 51 Audi A6 bluetooth
Jun 10, 2007 (3:12 pm)
I recently bought an '07 A6 with the tech package.
I tried using the bluetooth but find i have really weak signal. Is there a way to get a stronger signal or should i place my phone in a certain area?
#24 of 51 My 1995 A5 will not turn over
Sep 23, 2007 (5:17 am)
I just got back from the store my car ran fine. 10 min later I go to start the car and it is dead... Battery is great all lights, locks and work but it does not want to crank.. Can you give me a suggestion..
#25 of 51 Re: My 1995 A5 will not turn over [djtommy]
Oct 16, 2007 (11:52 am)
Don't know much about 1995 A5's (didn't even know they had them back then, as they are just new this coming year)...
I've had that happen a few times and it was that I wasn't pressing down hard enough on the brake when trying to start the ignition... hopefully its something as simple as that...
Mar 04, 2008 (7:09 pm)
Had Sirius installed in my 2006 A6. After a year, only one station from each category remains operative. I called Sirius and they resent the logon signal. Problem remains. Operator at Sirius thinks that it may be a radio setting (utilizing the rotary knob). I have spent hours attempting to rectify the problem. Has anyone experienced a similiar situation? I MISS CNBC.