Right To Repair - A Hot Issue

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#508 of 576 Re: A letter to their facebook page [thecardoc3] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 26, 2012 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: thecardoc3 (Apr 26, 2012 2:17 pm)
I'm not following your logic. If a certain specialist is a highly trained and successful tech, running a successful shop, then why can 10 specialists run 10 successful shops? They are merely in the same location. Nothing else has to change.
 
I'm on the beta list for Carvoyant, too. Lemme know how it goes!

#509 of 576 Another R2R letter by thecardoc3

Apr 27, 2012 (6:23 am)

There is a side to all of this that is likely not apparent to many techs and shops who's concentration is primarily focused on simply serving their customers needs day in and day out. As some point out development on 2015's is already completed and the 16's and 17's are well on their way. We (I) experienced the nightmare of purchasing tools like the StarScan first hand when we stepped up and bought the tool only to have it be superceeded twice before we even made the last payment on it. To date it hasn't even retuned a quarter of it's cost and that's not counting the time that was required to use it. When Chrysler was selling it, someone already knew it was a lame duck but they sold it anyway.
 
 New vehicles today contain the capability of circumventing us and the dealers as well with the wireless technology that is being built right into the cars. Where at one time doing reflashes and module setups were part of the revenue streams that compensated shops for making the required investment in tools and software it's already being phased out of our future business plans. As people move towards one side of this debate or the other they all need to recognize any "tool" today will have a limited lifespan as the technology in the cars continues to advance at a ever faster rate. OBDII is going on tewnty years old. OBDIII technically already exists but it hides under names like Sync and On-Star (among others). As a shop owner/technician my greatest concern is that I may yet again purchase another tool that someone else knows is already outdated. Maybe it will fill a lot of gaps for many shops on vehicles up to a given model year and we all need to know exactly what year that is, or will be. No matter what the lifespan of the "tool" must be made clear for shops and techs to make informed decisions.

#510 of 576 Delayed, Again by thecardoc3

Apr 30, 2012 (5:25 am)

http://www.wickedlocal.com/chelmsford/news/x1976919203/Fargo-Senators-seem-unsur- e-about-auto-repair-bill#axzz1tGbhhjCx
 
Thank goodness that when a bill is pushed hard enough, the smart people stop in order to have time to try and make sure they know what they are being told is correct.
 
BTW did you know an amendment was added exempting motorcycles?

#511 of 576 Re: Delayed, Again [thecardoc3] by steve_ HOST

Apr 30, 2012 (5:48 am)

Replying to: thecardoc3 (Apr 30, 2012 5:25 am)
And it gives the pols time to collect more lobbying money for their re-election campaigns.

#513 of 576 Re: Someone who understands the details [thecardoc3] by steve_ HOST

Apr 30, 2012 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: thecardoc3 (Apr 30, 2012 12:35 pm)
I'd be curious to know who the attorney author's clients are. He does intellectual property work; something tells me he's working for the automakers, not the big box parts retailers he derides.
 
The details he understands are likely spelled out on his invoices, LOL.
 
Good stuff, keep it coming. I guess you saw the Technicans against RtoR Facebook page linked in the comments to that article.

#514 of 576 Re: Someone who understands the details [steve_] by thecardoc3

Apr 30, 2012 (3:48 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 30, 2012 12:56 pm)
Well let's just say that's the crowd I usually hang out with.....

#515 of 576 Re: Someone who understands the details [thecardoc3] by steve_ HOST

May 01, 2012 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: thecardoc3 (Apr 30, 2012 3:48 pm)
Since you have so much leisure time ( ) you may want to check out this new discussion:
 
A Mechanic's Life - Tales From Under the Hood

#516 of 576 Re: Someone who understands the details [steve_] by thecardoc3

May 02, 2012 (1:59 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (May 01, 2012 6:22 pm)
http://www.nastfenews.org/
 
More reading material

#517 of 576 Re: Someone who understands the details [steve_] by thecardoc3

May 02, 2012 (2:09 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (May 01, 2012 6:22 pm)
I'll let everyone else play on that one for now. Some days we walk out the door feeling good about what we have accomplished. There are many others have a way of making that impossible, even when we did everything the absolute best that we could. If only we could do this without actually needing to earn a living...
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