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Land Rover LR3, Auto Repair, SUV
#3 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [koesler]
Feb 06, 2007 (7:04 am)
I'm pleased for you. Somebody must be having positive experiences because they keep selling. However, a class action suit and a bottom-of-the-heap quality rating are statistically telling. Nevertheless, enjoy your vehicle.
On the other hand, I don't think it's appropriate for you to make light of these issues, nor to make gross generalizations about other vehicles that you do not own. If you have only driven 22000 in two years, you are not the same type of driver that I am. I put on 28500 in one year. I spend more time on the road. What to a local driver might be an inconvenience that gets serviced and goes away, to a distance driver renders the vehicle unusable over 400 miles of travel at a pop. (And once you leave a metropolitan area, it's not like Landrover dealerships are a dime a dozen.)
The service manager and I have agreed that this vehicle was, metaphorically speaking, built on a Friday afternoon before a three day holiday weekend and Joe Blogs was well into his first Guinness. Apparently, there are lots of those types at the Land Rover assembly line.
#4 of 28 YOu got a bad car...
Feb 06, 2007 (7:19 am)
It can happen with any make and is not limted to Land Rover alone.
What made it worse is that you drive a huge amount of miles a year(ever thought of leasing two less expensive vehicles? It might work out better in the long rung)and that there are not many Land Rover dealers around.
Secondly RE: The fuel system: Are you sure you did not get a 2005 LR3? The fuel tank recall was limted to certain 2005 MY LR3s.
Thirdly RE: Class Action Suit: Cali's law suit regulations are so linent almost anyone can sue for any reason there. The tire problem has been aknowledged by Land Rover through revised rear suspension settings and a prorated tire program.
I even posted the details of the prorated tire bulletin on this board once. I could go track it down again if you like.
#5 of 28 Re: YOu got a bad car... [british_rover]
Feb 06, 2007 (7:59 am)
Ah, good call British-rover. It was an EARLY 2006 model. Acquired in Sept. 2005.
And you are right, but I can't afford to do the mileage I do and do the prorated tire stuff--that's just plain silly.
While bad cars "happen", my need to post this on a board is my only recourse from a dealership that should be working with me to salvage their reputation and get me out of this vehicle. From a sales perspective, they are not smart enough to recognize the value of saving one customer and asking me, in return, to acknowledge their salesmanship/customer service. They are blithely permitting me to wave in the breeze until my lease is up.
Thus, they deserve their bad press. (And this is easier than me taking out a permit to picket the dealership.)
Also, bear in mind that, acknowledged or not, there ARE gender issues when assessing the reliability of a vehicle for a person who travels a long route on a highway. I don't care if the recalls/roadside assistance/accommodations are top notch. I do not want my safety compromised in anyway by being on the side of the road. I was dreadfully disappointed to discover that a Jiffy Lube in New Hampshire didn't stock the oil filter for the LR3. And I posted, when it happened, about my horrid experience trying to find a replacement tire in Hartford on a holiday weekend. These types of little inconveniences render the car only appropriate for soccer moms and the Joneses. I, honest to goodness, got the vehicle to climb Killington, stick to a wet highway in the Northeast, and handle sand in Montauk. In addition, the seat was far more comfortable than the XC90, as I'm short. My point here is that, if I had purchased the car with faulty criteria or on a whim, I'd just chalk it up to an error in choice. But I'm doubly determined to post this message because, other than knowing what I know now, by my buying criteria alone, I'd be at risk to make the same choice again. And statistically, there are enough lousy Land Rovers out there, that it should remain a car of only enthusiasts and soccer moms in my (newly derived) opinion.
#6 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [koesler]
Feb 06, 2007 (9:31 am)
its obvious you are a lr hardcore, but to slam other companies for no reason is a bit silly. Every car manufacturer has its share of problems. Just like you have had a great experience with your land rover, others have had them with mercedes, bmw, toyota and i daresay some american vehicles!
It strikes me as a litte weird that you would read that post and still have the gall to say, 'you call that a problem vehicle'?, like if its normal for a vehicle to have to have that all replaced and the companies you listed afterwards have the same things happen to THEM ALL the time.
#7 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [sfm]
Feb 06, 2007 (12:06 pm)
nor to make gross generalizations about other vehicles that you do not own
To be fair, neither should one make generalizations about a model based on a single ownership experience.
#8 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [tidester]
Feb 06, 2007 (1:55 pm)
Your point is taken, tidester. But please note that these issue are not unique to my LR3. They are all well documented "known issues". It's just that while some people have experienced one of them, I seem to have a hat trick. And the net net is that I can't do anything with the suspension except keep replacing the tires. I assure you, I am envious of happy LR3 owners everywhere. But LR3 potential buyers deserve as much information as they can get.
#9 of 28 out of line...
Feb 06, 2007 (2:38 pm)
I have a RR. I LOVE my RR. I DO NOT like the amount of time is spends in the shop. When it is in the shop, I always get an LR3 loaner. When I return the loaner, I always ask the LR folks "how on the planet could anyone actually think the LR3 is a good purchase?" That truck is a piece of dudu. I had a laoner about 6 months ago, it had 700 miles on it when I picked it up. It had 720 miles on it when the flatbed came and got it. A main oil seal let go.
I had one last month with 19k on the clock. It reminded me of an Explorer my buddy once had with over 150k on the clock. It was that noisy and loose.
As far as "they all do that"??
In the past year, my RR has had over $8000.00 in warranty work done on it.
My sister bought an LX470 at about the same time. Her warranty bill over the same time period? $0.00.
#10 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [sfm]
Feb 06, 2007 (2:38 pm)
But please note that these issue are not unique to my LR3.
Of course. I wasn't taking a position.
Click on the "Consumer Rating" link near the top of this page for additional perspective.
#11 of 28 Re: My 2006 LR3: The Cautionary Tale [sfm]
Feb 08, 2007 (11:27 am)
This is a really old story with Land Rovers. I loved my '98 RR, when it wasn't in the shop, but I bailed on it (at a big loss) after a year because of way too many problems.
There was a L-T test in Car & Driver on a Disco I in the mid-nineties--I think they needed almost every single component on the vehicle repaired or replaced in the time they had it.....
#12 of 28 Re: YOu got a bad car... [sfm]
Feb 13, 2007 (7:18 pm)
you didn't really go to jiffy lube, did you? that is just plain scary(going to jiffy lube with any vehicle).