Sign In Join 



Right To Repair - A Hot Issue or Big Problem?

133 messages,  Last post on Oct 06, 2009 at 3:25 PM

You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires

What is this discussion about? Electrical


Messages Page 11 of 14
1
...
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#100 of 133
5.2&5.9 engines interchange poss. by rlordy
Nov 17, 2007 (4:15 pm)
Reply
I would like to know if an 5.2 engine can interchanged with a 5.9 . Its a grand cherokee 1997 .will any of the computors- injecters-sensors have to be changed to make an the engine swap ,any advice,or facts, thank you
#101 of 133
the electronic generation of cars by rider62
Nov 25, 2007 (6:51 pm)
Reply
Did you all know that the teenager computer geek at home is the latest shade tree mechanic, rephrase; the latest diagnostic troubleshooter.....better than the factory trained and ASE guys at your local dealership or independent garages!!!!!
Why is that? uhm
#102 of 133
Re: the electronic generation of cars [rider62] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 25, 2007 (10:15 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rider62 (Nov 25, 2007 6:51 pm)

maybe so, maybe not. The machine is only as good as the person operating it, or as they say: "Data is not knowledge".
#103 of 133
Re: the electronic generation of cars [rider62] by volvomax
Nov 26, 2007 (12:18 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rider62 (Nov 25, 2007 6:51 pm)

Really?
What proof do you have for this assertion?
#104 of 133
Questions to help a student by carinfohelp
Nov 27, 2007 (12:49 pm)
Reply
Howdy! I am a student who needs help for my marketing class. We are doing a project and I need some feedback if anyone is willing!
 
By aftermarket I mean anything really that is added after the car is purchased and more typically like car features and not parts, aka adding aftermarket remote access features, not a new starter because the original broke.
 
Do you add aftermarket parts to your car?
 
Would you add aftermarket parts if there was a feature that you wanted but didn't have?
 
Why do you or others add aftermarket parts to their cars?
 
Would you add aftermarket remote access to your car?
 
Would you add aftermarket push button ignition?
 
if you are willing are you male or female and maybe general age if you want.

Thanks so much for any responses or help, it is much needed and very much appreciated!!!
#105 of 133
Re: Questions to help a student [carinfohelp] by estreka
Nov 27, 2007 (1:18 pm)
Reply

Replying to: carinfohelp (Nov 27, 2007 12:49 pm)

Sure. I'm a 26/m.
 
Do you add aftermarket parts to your car?
Absolutely.
Would you add aftermarket parts if there was a feature that you wanted but didn't have?
Often I hold off from OEM features anyway because the aftermarket is so much cheaper and I can get specific items that are more in line with my personal taste.
Why do you or others add aftermarket parts to their cars?
Cost. Personality. Reliability. You name it.
Would you add aftermarket remote access to your car?
I have it for my car. I would do it again, yes.
Would you add aftermarket push button ignition?
No. My S2000 came with it and I like it as far as gimmicks go, but I wouldn't pay extra for it.
#106 of 133
Re: the electronic generation of cars [rider62] by 0patience
Nov 27, 2007 (11:10 pm)
Reply

Replying to: rider62 (Nov 25, 2007 6:51 pm)

You assume that the computer will actually tell you what part to replace.
 
I have seen hundreds of young kids come out of tech schools where they emphasized Computer diagnostics and they were lost on basic diagnosis.
 
As long as there is still mechanical parts in the vehicles, the "teenage computer geek" (as you put it) will be lost.
The computer person will be lost, because he won't have access to thousands of dollars of diagnostic information, updated information and specialized tools.
 
The information system I have costs roughly $1800/year for each person.
Add to that, the costs of scanners, DVOMs (some run in the neighborhood of $600) and what ever training that comes along.
 
I'd like to see these computer kids rebuild a manual transmission or differential.
 
I get many of these vehicles that these "computer kids" have hacked the computers, messed with the programming and added Nitrous Oxide, boosted turbos and that and destroyed their transmissions and differentials.
 
Why? Because they were clueless to the basics.
 
No bit of computer knowledge can replace experience and knowledge.
#107 of 133
Re: the electronic generation of cars [0patience] by steve_ HOST
Nov 28, 2007 (6:53 am)
Reply

Replying to: 0patience (Nov 27, 2007 11:10 pm)

You assume that the computer will actually tell you what part to replace
 
I think we're heading that way. I've fixed a lot of computers by swapping parts around and I have no transistor or electrical theory background. I'm hoping that all the electrical diagnosis scanners that you are paying big bucks for will trickle down and wind up being onboard the car one day. So the car will flash the idiot video screen and tell you what broke, how it tried to heal it, and what needs to be swapped out.
 
It's not cost effective to resolder a resistor in a circuit board - are there still a lot of backyard starter/generator shops rebuilding alternators? I figure most of those guys have retired and that business is all bolt on now.
 
The economics of simply swapping out a factory rebuilt tranny or differential may outweigh a shop rebuild too. For example, my buddy got a crate engine a couple of months ago and paid $1,000 more for a factory job with a 5 year warranty vs the local shop rebuilt one that offered a one year warranty.
#108 of 133
Re: the electronic generation of cars [steve_] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 28, 2007 (8:01 am)
Reply

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 28, 2007 6:53 am)

I wouldn't hold my breath for that. The car environment and the computer environment are very different with regards to diagnostics. The variables in a car are infinitely more complex and inter-dependent I think, and it's going to take some mighty hefty computer power to actually locate the faulty part.
 
But it will get better and better, I'll grant you that.

Messages Page 11 of 14
1
...
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement