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Automotive News & Views Right To Repair - A Hot Issue or Big Problem?
133 messages, Last post on Oct 06, 2009 at 3:25 PM
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Replying to: 0patience (Oct 13, 2007 10:29 am) Really? Where do you do your training? As for the software work, since Volvo requires access to their main systems to reprogram, I guess they have everyone by the (you know whats). Indies can't very well do something that the manufacturer won't supply to the outside market. Volvo will supply it. For a helluva fee. Most indy's can't/won't spend the money for it. Which is why we end up doing all their computer work. Sooner or later, this approach will trickle down to the mass marketed cars. Lux makers like Volvo, Lexus, Benz etc are at the forefront of this, but it will find its way to Honda's and Chevy's. I guess I don't know anything about fixing cars, so I'lll shut up. Relax, there are still plenty of old cars to fix. |
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 15, 2007 9:46 am) Yeah, I'm old school - I guess a wireless download right to the car on Tuesday nights at 3 am would be ok. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 15, 2007 10:53 am) |
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 15, 2007 9:46 am) Portland and Seattle mostly. Other times, they bring in some folks from Volvo on site to do the training. Volvo will supply it. For a helluva fee. Most indy's can't/won't spend the money for it. Which is why we end up doing all their computer work. Interesting. Beings as the programming is sent from Volvo to the dealer's computer to the vehicle through an interface. Curious as to how an independant can get Volvo to do that, when they won't even do it for large fleets who make the provisions part of their contract. Besides, you are using the arrogance of the "luxury" vehicle manufacturers, which is why the Right to Repair act was started in the first place. The idea that ONLY the dealer mechanics should be able to fix their brand of vehicles.
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Replying to: 0patience (Oct 15, 2007 3:33 pm) Hmm. I don't think that you know how Volvo does their software downloads. Which, if you were factory trained you would know. Volvo uses VIDA, which is an internet based system. That means anyone who can access the web address, and get Volvo's operational software downloaded to their PC or laptop can use the system. See what I mean about Indy's not being up to spec?
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 15, 2007 10:53 am) People screw up their computers all the time because they try to change something and don't know how to do it. Cars are not different. They are just rolling computers. Imagine how pissed you would be if you downloaded, say a software update for the suspension module and you Xenon headlights went off aim. Which has happened. Without the proper training, you would know that you have to re-calibrate the headlight aiming. Volvo( or any other car co.) simply can't take the time to make their software idiot proof, or lay person friendly. Nor can they set up the necessary hot lines so cutomers can fix what they screw up. sometimes it can take the dealer days to hear from volvo baout a software issue.
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 17, 2007 9:33 am) That means anyone who can access the web address, and get Volvo's operational software downloaded to their PC or laptop can use the system. Yep, seems that both VIDA and VCADS Volvo will not allow downloads outside of the dealer's computers. Or at least they haven't. That was the information that we were provided. If that has changed in the last year, then that is good to know. |
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 17, 2007 9:38 am) That is arrogance at its best. To be honest, I pay little attention to the automotive part, mostly because trucks are what I do. If it weren't for the truck portion of Volvo, they'd be just another car to me. The whole point of this thread is the "Right to Repair Act". Not, "I can puff my chest up further than you". So, if you want to get back on track with the discussion, that would be nice. If not, then I am wasting my time with this discussion.
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Replying to: 0patience (Oct 17, 2007 4:11 pm) You are a shining example. Volvo Truck is completely separate from Volvo Cars. They have different owners,different everything. You have a little info, on a completely different company,and you are not applying it properly.
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 18, 2007 9:14 am) You are welcome to have your opinion. You're right, I don't know anything at all. I bow to your almighty knowledge of cars, you sure told me. |
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