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Replying to: rockfish1 (Apr 03, 2007 10:06 am) I have probably 12 different scan tools. Most sent to me from the manufacturers and depending on what vehicle you have, there are some available that will cover proprietary trouble codes and parameters. Currently, there are a lot of scanners and scan programs that offer GM, Ford and Chrysler proprietary code information. AutoTap (program), AutoXray (handheld), Actron (handheld), OTC (handheld) and InjectoClean are among them. InjectoClean (program) also offers Toyota and Honda proprietary codes in their program package, as well as a labscope set up for pocket PC and Palm units. We do a lot of testing on scan tools, so we know there are some out there. 
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Replying to: 0patience (Apr 03, 2007 4:44 pm)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Apr 03, 2007 6:59 pm) So, anyway................ The Actron 9190 and the AutoXray 6000 are pretty comparable units. They both will do quite a bit. They have monitor capabilities and will do most manufacturer's powertrain diagnostics. The next step down is the Actron 9150 and AutoXray 5000. Both of these still have monitor capabilities, but are a little less than the top ones. If you click on my name, you will see my profile and some links. We have articles on a lot of the scanners. You may want to consider a scan program, either laptop (PC) based or Palm or Pocket PC based. One of my favorites is Injectoclean's (now Injectronic) New CJ4 scan tool, which we are testing and reviewing in the near future. It is a full on scanner with labscope that is competitively priced for the DIYer. Last I checked with them, they are selling for around $400. Remember that there are differences in a lot of the scanners and some that say they are scanners are really only code readers. Scanners will provide diagnostic information and code readers only read the codes and clear codes. While some folks, code readers are sufficient, but for anyone who wishes to do any kind of diagnostics, a good scanner is the only way to go. Also, if you plan on doing any diagnostics on any vehicle, then get a good information system or manual. Since I am biased towards one, I will leave that to you to make the decision which one. but Steve (host) has put together a great page http://www.carspace.com/guides/Online-Repair-Manuals. My preferance is the first link under the paid sources (AlldataDIY). But again, I am biased toward them, so take my opinion for what it is worth. Oh yeah, one thing to note....... None of these scanners will do SRS (airbag) or Body controls and only a limited amount of ABS. So if you are expecting to do any of that, expect to pay premium prices for scanners with those capabilities.
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Replying to: 0patience (Apr 03, 2007 8:48 pm) Injectronic seem to be a fairly new company - 10 years old and 7 years in the diagnostic business - but are already in 35 countries. Are they profitable enough to stay in business? I would not want an expensive scan tool become obsolete due to lack of support. To bad Edmunds doesn't have a undo/redo feature. I've lost messages also.
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Apr 04, 2007 5:33 am) Amazon has the Actron CP9135 on sale for ~$73 but it sounds like it's not CAN protocol and may not work on cars newer than around 2004. So I won't mention it.  The CP9175 is about $110. Upgradeable via USB link sounds like the latest must have feature? |
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Replying to: 0patience (Apr 03, 2007 8:48 pm) Or would we be cast into the rather ironic situation of attacking proprietary automakers' codes by having to buy 3 or 4 proprietary scanners?
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 06, 2007 2:07 am)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Apr 04, 2007 5:33 am) One of the scanners I have from them is about 7 years old and upgrading hasn't been a problem so far.
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Replying to: pmurray (Apr 04, 2007 12:41 pm) The Chevy oil change reset on post 96 vehicles is in the owners manual. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 04, 2007 7:16 am) Generic codes are P0100-P1000 diagnostic codes. The part where it gets sticky is the proprietary or manufacturer specific codes. Those are parts that are proprietary to the specific manufacturer. A lot of the newer scanners in the $300-$600 range will have the manufacturer codes for at least Ford, GM and Chrysler. Some are now carrying the manufacturer codes for Toyota and there are a few that carry the manufacturer specific code information for Honda. For the most part, emissions codes are in the P0100-P1000 range, so most scanners will handle them.
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