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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
by razorthunder
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Feb 15, 2007 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2007 1:09 pm)
Would you buy from a company that releases thousands of unsafe and unreliable vehicles? Has failed to come up with a viable solution to solve its break defect. And even fails to honor its written warranty in violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. If even Nissan doesn't back its product, why should I?
Jeeez, some people are brain-washed huh? Does Nissan tell you that garbage, like the truck is actually smaller but feels bigger. Ignore are parts defects, and treat those customers like garbage, and lie to them and break federal law buy not honoring warranties. Who cares about the lives that are at stake, its all about out bottomline.
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
by paisan
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Feb 15, 2007 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: razorthunder (Feb 15, 2007 1:24 pm)
Actually this is my first Nissan I've ever owned.
I had brake problems, I knew that about the Japanese full size trucks going in (Toyota had the same problem it's first year of the Tundra/Sequoia).
Nissan fixed my truck's brake problems, Larger Rotors, Pads and Caliper Brackets. I tow large loads (9,000lb boat trailer, 6,000lb car trailer) and since the brake fixes, no issues.
No one has "brainwashed" me into liking my truck, heck I had a deposit on a Suburban before I even looked at my 04 Armada.
Just because YOUR PARTICULAR dealer isn't helpful, doesn't mean all of them are not helpful.
-mike
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
by razorthunder
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Feb 15, 2007 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2007 4:59 pm)
Again you are posting hogwash. It is a systemic problem, many people are facing the same issues with the Nissan Titan trucks. Just look at the numerous blog discussions on this site. The problem encompasses multiple franchised owned dealerships, and Nissan North America has a whole. It boils down to a cost benefit analysis, why would you fix the problem when you can deny it exists, offer cheap solutions or even refuse to service vehicles, and just try to minimize losses. They offer quick solutions that take customers to outside the warranty period and not 10 year, 120,000 mile solutions. You put your consumers lives in danger in order to have a greater bottom line (profit) in a competitive vehicle market. Your very naive if you think this is just a particular dealership versus a company strategy.
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
by paisan
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Feb 15, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: razorthunder (Feb 15, 2007 7:13 pm)
How is it then that me, towing 9,000lb trailers, 6,000lb trailers and when I'm not towing my race cars, I'm a fairly "aggressive" driver and after the last fix, almost 33,000 miles ago, I haven't had a problem?????
Try to explain that then?
-mike
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
by paisan
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Feb 15, 2007 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2007 8:19 pm)
I ALSO ASKED YOU TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS IN THE PROPER DISCUSSION, this is a discussion about the features, etc. of the 2008 Titan, not a place for you to air your complaints, please see the PROPER DISCUSSIONS where your complaints should be places like "Problems, Issue, etc" or start your own topic to air your complaints!
-mike
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
by razorthunder
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Feb 15, 2007 (10:27 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 15, 2007 8:24 pm)
I asked you to post your comments in "false statements," because most of what you say is hogwash. If Nissan isn't willing to back its vehicles, even those brand new with valid written warranties people should know that before considering purchasing a 2008 Nissan Titan. Because saying a vehicle has a 36 month 36,000 mile warranty, and then not providing warranty service at 30 months and 24000 miles is a big issue that consumer should know about. So, again this is the proper board for this discussion, so readers can examine these considerations before making a decision.
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
by paisan
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Feb 16, 2007 (12:27 am)
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Replying to: razorthunder (Feb 15, 2007 10:27 pm)
"I asked you to post your comments in "false statements," because most of what you say is hogwash."
See the difference between you and I is this, I am posting about MY OWN EXPERIENCE, not making widespread generalizations about the vehicle as a whole, the company as a whole or all their dealerships as a whole.
What exactly did I lie about???? What false statements have I made??? NOW I'M MAD! I never personally attacked you or said that your particular vehicle doesn't have a problem (as I can't vouche for something that I haven't seen) and I never said that Nissan was or wasn't treating you properly, as I don't have all the details.
I simply stated that your comments are not relevant to this topic as they are about a different model year before the brake issues were address. Have you even researched the 08 model to see if they have the same brakes as yours?
I'm done with this conversation, as once you start making personal attacks as you have, I have no time for your antics.
-mike
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
by razorthunder
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Feb 16, 2007 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 16, 2007 12:27 am)
Ok. The false statement was when you said the 2008 Titan was larger than the 2007 Tundra, and I have provided you the measurements. Then you compared the Nissan brake defeat with Tundra which was an apples and oranges comparison since Nissan has really not fixed there problem, and in a cost benefit analysis errors on the side of profit as a company strategy. You stated it was one particular dealership, however, I went to 3 dealerships to get the issue fixed; none of them honored the warranty, and then went to Midas to get my rotors and brake pads replaced for the 4th time. I even called Nissan North America and no action was taken. Bottom line that doesn't sound like one particular dealership to me.
As far the relevance to this topic area. Why would you buy a 2008 Nissan Titan, if Nissan doesn't even back previous years model by honoring its warranty. If a decision comes between protecting your life by repairing defects or saving the company bottom line (profit), they choose profit. People should know that before purchasing their next vehicle.
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
by muskyfever
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Mar 01, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: razorthunder (Feb 16, 2007 7:57 am)
My buddy bought a Titan and says it's the best truck he has ever owned bar none. The dealer I bought my Pathfinder from was ranked as the number one dealer in 06' also.
I think I would trust a Nissan over any American truck.
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Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [muskyfever]
by razorthunder
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Mar 03, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: muskyfever (Mar 01, 2007 2:12 pm)
Thats great to hear. I thought the same thing until I replaced the rotors and brake pads 4 times. Nissan stopped backing the warranty at 24000 miles and 30 months. Then I replaced the BCM for the fourth time. But I towed the vehicle to a BBB arbitrition hearing since Nissan wouldn't volunteerly buy back the vehicle and it wasn't even in working condition and the arbitrated obviously awarded buy-back for the safety and reliability issues in a consent decision. The hearing was a waste of time since the facts were clear and I had all my work history and documentation. In fact Nissan didn't even present a case, they concurred at the hearing, basically I guess just wondered if I would show up. But I won't go though that nightmare vehicle again. I understand they fixed the brake issue in 2005, but they shouldn't have released faulty unsafe vehicles in 2004 and then stop backing the warranty.
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