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#7 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
Feb 15, 2007 (12:09 pm)
Nope, my Armada has never stranded me, and Nissan has been aces on repairing my First Model Year brakes with larger ones. I tow for 90% of my driving with a 6,000lb trailer and a 9,000lb trailer, no brake issues or BCM issues. As I said the first model years (04/05) had insufficient brakes and this issue was resolved with updated pads and rotors and brackets on mine at 3,000 miles and no problems since. Let's not forget the Tundra and Sequoia had the same exact brake issues on their first generation of full sized trucks.
PS: Since your comments don't concern the 2008 model, please keep them in the Titan compaints/problems thread instead of this thread which is to discuss the new 08 Titan.
#8 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
Feb 15, 2007 (1:53 pm)
History of the model and its engineering and customer service does concern the release of the 2008 Nissan Titan Model. So these comments are appropriately posted in the preview section of the 2008 Nissan Titan. And, again you are generating false comparison, the severity of the Nissan Titan Brake Defect is much worse, which has yet to be resolved in many Nissan vehicles. Braking in vehicles is ultimately generated by heat and friction. The calipers on the 2004 Nissan Titans are faulty and so are the materials and overall design. The rotors are to small, and made of poor material, as the brake pads rub up and down against the rotor due to the faulty calipers this causes the rotors to warp and the brake pads to prematurely wear out. As the rotors warped, the heat and friction weren't enough to stop a vehicle safely. In addition, this would send out vibrations through-out the vehicle, so violently drivers would be unable to hold on the the steering wheel and lose control of the vehicle. Nissan released thousands of vehicles in this condition, they stipulate these facts by issuing 4 technical service bulletins, and one recall, trying to fix it. As a first year Titan owner, this the the foundation and reputation that Nissan launched its new line of Nissan Titans. After four attempts of repairs, and Nissan still has failed to resolve this issue on my vehicle. You can see why I'm not impressed with the 2008 line of Nissan Titans.
#9 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
Feb 15, 2007 (2:09 pm)
However your concerns are with your 04MY, not the 08MY. Do you know anything about the 08MY, the brake issues were fixed with the 06MY and very few complaints have been lodged for those years and the years afterward. So how can you project that because you had a problem with your 04MY Titan, there will be a problem with the 08MY.
Jeez, some people just don't get it do they....
#10 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
Feb 15, 2007 (2:24 pm)
Would you buy from a company that releases thousands of unsafe and unreliable vehicles? Has failed to come up with a viable solution to solve its break defect. And even fails to honor its written warranty in violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. If even Nissan doesn't back its product, why should I?
Jeeez, some people are brain-washed huh? Does Nissan tell you that garbage, like the truck is actually smaller but feels bigger. Ignore are parts defects, and treat those customers like garbage, and lie to them and break federal law buy not honoring warranties. Who cares about the lives that are at stake, its all about out bottomline.
#11 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
Feb 15, 2007 (5:59 pm)
Actually this is my first Nissan I've ever owned.
I had brake problems, I knew that about the Japanese full size trucks going in (Toyota had the same problem it's first year of the Tundra/Sequoia).
Nissan fixed my truck's brake problems, Larger Rotors, Pads and Caliper Brackets. I tow large loads (9,000lb boat trailer, 6,000lb car trailer) and since the brake fixes, no issues.
No one has "brainwashed" me into liking my truck, heck I had a deposit on a Suburban before I even looked at my 04 Armada.
Just because YOUR PARTICULAR dealer isn't helpful, doesn't mean all of them are not helpful.
#12 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
Feb 15, 2007 (8:13 pm)
Again you are posting hogwash. It is a systemic problem, many people are facing the same issues with the Nissan Titan trucks. Just look at the numerous blog discussions on this site. The problem encompasses multiple franchised owned dealerships, and Nissan North America has a whole. It boils down to a cost benefit analysis, why would you fix the problem when you can deny it exists, offer cheap solutions or even refuse to service vehicles, and just try to minimize losses. They offer quick solutions that take customers to outside the warranty period and not 10 year, 120,000 mile solutions. You put your consumers lives in danger in order to have a greater bottom line (profit) in a competitive vehicle market. Your very naive if you think this is just a particular dealership versus a company strategy.
#13 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
Feb 15, 2007 (9:19 pm)
How is it then that me, towing 9,000lb trailers, 6,000lb trailers and when I'm not towing my race cars, I'm a fairly "aggressive" driver and after the last fix, almost 33,000 miles ago, I haven't had a problem?????
Try to explain that then?
#14 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
Feb 15, 2007 (9:24 pm)
I ALSO ASKED YOU TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS IN THE PROPER DISCUSSION, this is a discussion about the features, etc. of the 2008 Titan, not a place for you to air your complaints, please see the PROPER DISCUSSIONS where your complaints should be places like "Problems, Issue, etc" or start your own topic to air your complaints!
#15 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [paisan]
Feb 15, 2007 (11:27 pm)
I asked you to post your comments in "false statements," because most of what you say is hogwash. If Nissan isn't willing to back its vehicles, even those brand new with valid written warranties people should know that before considering purchasing a 2008 Nissan Titan. Because saying a vehicle has a 36 month 36,000 mile warranty, and then not providing warranty service at 30 months and 24000 miles is a big issue that consumer should know about. So, again this is the proper board for this discussion, so readers can examine these considerations before making a decision.
#16 of 53 Re: Ah yes a numbers guy [razorthunder]
Feb 16, 2007 (1:27 am)
"I asked you to post your comments in "false statements," because most of what you say is hogwash."
See the difference between you and I is this, I am posting about MY OWN EXPERIENCE, not making widespread generalizations about the vehicle as a whole, the company as a whole or all their dealerships as a whole.
What exactly did I lie about???? What false statements have I made??? NOW I'M MAD! I never personally attacked you or said that your particular vehicle doesn't have a problem (as I can't vouche for something that I haven't seen) and I never said that Nissan was or wasn't treating you properly, as I don't have all the details.
I simply stated that your comments are not relevant to this topic as they are about a different model year before the brake issues were address. Have you even researched the 08 model to see if they have the same brakes as yours?
I'm done with this conversation, as once you start making personal attacks as you have, I have no time for your antics.