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#60 of 106 SF is better in my estimation
by skierbri10
Aug 26, 2007 (7:00 pm)
Well, I cannot stand the dash in the Outlander, FUGLY....
As far as quality, my sister works very high up the food chain at Honda, when I told her that Hondas were too expensive for what you get, even the used ones. I told her that I was looking at the SF and she said that Hyundai makes great cars... I was like wow, why would you a ranking person at Honda tell me that. She said that really all of the car companies are very close on quality and reliablity. Also, that Hyundai will not have poor trade-in values for much longer. In 3 years by Hondas estimation Hyundais will only be 2-3% lower in trade-in than Honda. In 5 years it will probably be 0-1%. So all things considered Hyundais are no longer a risky buy. I figure that most people that go on message boards to bash a company have investments in competing companies, or they have other issues with that company. It's really sad actually, that some of you would waste your time posting negatives about Hyundai and have nothing to back it up with. Oh well to each their own...
#61 of 106 Re: SF is better in my estimation [skierbri10]
by gizzer777
Aug 26, 2007 (7:11 pm)
I share your opinion of the outlander's interior but that makes horseracing. Mits always did some strange stuff to their vehicles. When I first saw the Outlander's exterior, I was attracted to it....turned off when I entered it but it did drive ok...then I went and bought the 07 SF...no regrets either so far. The SF just felt so much more solid to me (got the SE AWD)
A friend is pretty high up in the Toyota org said their last corporate meeting was spent with a lot of time devoted to hyundai and their increasing quality as well. Apparently Toyota has also cast an eye at the Hyundai company as being a potential LARGE threat! Interesting.
#62 of 106 Re: SF is better in my estimation [gizzer777]
by skierbri10
Aug 26, 2007 (8:28 pm)
In general, Honda the company are snobs. They still believe that they have a far superior product. I own a Honda Prelude and a Hyundai SF and the Honda is a nice, good quality car, but so is the Hyundai. I do like how Honda has the navi and backup camera in thier CRV. Overall, though I felt that they Hyundai was a better vehicle for the money. I liked the safty features and when I read the crash test results, the Hyundai was the only suv/crossover that had no actual injuries to the dummies. I think Toyota and Honda are keeping a sharp eye to their rear and watching Hyundai move up the ladder quickly.
#63 of 106 Why is everyone
by nortsr1
Aug 27, 2007 (6:17 am)
compaing the CRV against the Hyundai SantaFe??? Shouldn't it be compared against the Hyundai Tuscon?????
#64 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [nortsr1]
by ejonavin
Aug 27, 2007 (12:19 pm)
From my point of view CR-V is competing with the Santa Fe. Cargo space is similar and price is similar (at least in Canada).
As I see it,
CR-V Advantage
- better fuel economy
- aux audio port
- better handling (not so tipsy)
- 2nd row seats can slide
- optional Navi with backup camera
- driver window auto-up
Santa Fe
- power drivers seat with lumbar support *
- dual zone climate control *
- smooth and powerful V6
- optional 3rd row seats
* will be available in 2008 models on CR-V
The other stuff is mostly subjective (looks) or equivalent (safety, features, and to a lesser extent interior which an edge to the CR-V, although the leather on the Santa Fe seems like it's "better").
#65 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [ejonavin]
by joe97
Aug 27, 2007 (12:43 pm)
Navigation will be available on the 2008 Santa Fe
Sound system, comfort and interior volume, among others, I would give the nod to the SF.
#66 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [ejonavin]
by mpuzach
Aug 27, 2007 (2:54 pm)
I agree that the CR-V competes more closely with the Santa Fe than with the Tucson. After looking very closely at all 3 before ultimately buying a Santa Fe Limited AWD, I'll add a few things to your comparison.
Santa Fe Limited's 3.3 liter V6 is much more responsive than the CR-V's 4 cylinder. To me, the CR-V felt significantly under-powered.
The Santa Fe's 3.3 liter V6 is also extremely smooth and quiet; it feels like a very refined engine.
CR-V's 2nd row seats don't fold flat.
CR-V's center stack-mounted shifter is quite unappealing IMO.
I didn't find the CR-V to be the least bit fun to drive. The Santa Fe Limited is IMO extremely enjoyable to drive.
Santa Fe's interior lighting is an absolute kick, especially the illuminated cup holders!
Honda can't come close to Hyundai's warranty.
#67 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [mpuzach]
by ejonavin
Aug 27, 2007 (6:55 pm)
I'm still undecided.
While the CR-V's interior is very nice, it's "over-rated". I found the Santa Fe's leather much more appealing. CR-V also lacks an intermittent wipers on the rear and wiper heats on the front.
2nd row not folding flat isn't an issue for me as the second row will be occupied by baby seats and will never be folder. This leaves the usable cargo space about the same in both vehicles.
My current cars are the Honda Fit and Acura RSX, so you can see why I would think that the Santa Fe is a bit tipsy. OTOH, I'm kind of tired of engine and road noise on long trips and wouldn't mind having a nice, smooth hwy cruiser.
#68 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [ejonavin]
by mpuzach
Aug 27, 2007 (10:24 pm)
Have you driven a Santa Fe Limited? If not, I recommend that you do. A test drive could make your decision much easier; it certainly did for me.
#69 of 106 Re: Why is everyone [mpuzach]
by ejonavin
Aug 27, 2007 (10:39 pm)
Yes, I test-drove the top trim available in Canada, which is a GLS (equivalent to Limited?) with 3.3 V6, AWD, 18" alloys, leather, fully loaded.
You can really feel the weight during quick lane changes, and body sway on tight on-ramps. But the steering feel was excellent and the engine was a delight.