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#51 of 90
Re: narrowing it down [jski1] by blueiedgod
Apr 10, 2007 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 5:16 am)

I was not impressed with the CRV's 4 cyl. engine. I don't care what people say about that engines power-the fact is it does not adequately power that car which is too bad because the gas mileage is great.
 
Typical American infatuation with power. So, unless you are Jeff Gordon who races, or you tow a 3500 lbs boat, then you don't really need all that power. I don't have the 07, but I have an 05 with stick, and I leave pretty much every one in the dust racing from light to light in the everyday race to and from work. Often I see these cars that weigh as much as CR-V that have V6's and they are not even using half the engine power, while wasting gas.
 
You have to decide whether fuel economy is important to you. Honda gives you the best of both. CR-V auto is just as fast to 60 mph as the V6 powered Escape, and CR-V manual is 1-2 seconds faster to 60 than Escape, while getting close to 30 mpg.
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it's not all about horsepower by jski1
Apr 10, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Yes, that statement sounded like I have to have a muscle car but I am actually pretty low key when it comes to that otherwise I'd be looking at a totally different class of vehicles. I certainly wouldn't be looking for a mid-sized SUV if it was all about HP. The fact is I believe the 4 cyl. is undersized for that class of automobile and am willing to bet they come out with a 6 cyl. option in the next year or so.
 
Certainly there are those very satisfied with the 4 cyl. and before I test drove it I was pretty convinced I would purchase it.
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Re: narrowing it down [jski1] by drive62
Apr 10, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 5:16 am)

The Escape is a pretty old design. It's been updated but even the '08 isn't really new. IIWM I'd steer clear of that one.
 
You touched on one of the problems I find with Hyundai vehicles in general; they seem to get too low MPG. $4 and $5 per gallon is in the future. IIWM I'd make MPG a priority unless you have money to burn or get reimbursed for your gas expenditures.
 
If it's not going to be a CR-V (and it seems as if it won't) the Mitsu seems like a good choice. The brand really has been beaten back in the last few years by poor sales in the US. Hopefully it hasn't effected the vehicles or their dealer network. Good luck.
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Re: it's not all about horsepower [jski1] by blueiedgod
Apr 12, 2007 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 12:49 pm)

and am willing to bet they come out with a 6 cyl. option in the next year or so.
 
And I am betting that you will never see a V6 in the CR-V. But you may see a 4 cylinder Diesel in the near future, mated to a 6 speed manual. The EU gets diesel CR-V with 6 spd stick which yields about 40 mpg in mixed driving with 250 ft. lbs of torque.
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Re: narrowing it down [stevecar] by lv2drv
Apr 13, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: stevecar (Apr 10, 2007 7:47 am)

Ok, I realize there are some SUVs that get better gas mileage than others, but not by much. I drove home after filling up my SF Limited FWD tank and reset the average miles per gallon. I started out in the city with traffic lights. I got to highway for the ten mile drive home. I got 27.4 mpg going from 35-62. The speed limit on the highway is 65 and people were flying past me. I don't care. I want to save some money, get better gas mileage and show the oil companies a thing or two. But from the looks of it, I may be the only one. Better gas mileage can be had!
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Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [stevecar] by technikal
Apr 14, 2007 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: stevecar (Feb 05, 2007 9:57 am)

As of today, we own both. We've had a CR-V EX for a while, and just purchased the Santa Fe SE today.
 
I was surprised by the Santa Fe - in terms of standard features, ride quality, warranty and reliability reports from CR, JD Powers, etc. We've been pretty much a Honda/Toyota family forever, so risking a Hyundai was hard for me to do. However, it just 'felt' right. I know the resale value isn't there (though with the deals Hyundai is making, I should be 'even' after a few years), and the 10 year warranty helps ease my concerns as well. The Salesman asked for the number it would take to close the deal today, I gave him one I didn't think he'd meet - and he did - so I'm now a Hyundai owner!
 
I think both are excellent vehicles out of the gate. The CR-V has been one of the best cars I've ever owned - smartly designed, safe, reliable, practical, superb resale value... The only dislike I have is the 'flip-forward' rear seats, which suck up 1+ feet of cargo length. The Santa Fe just 'feels' like a much nicer and more expensive vehicle, even though it's cheaper with current deals. It's quieter, smoother and a bit nicer all around. The v6 is nice, though the fuel economy sucks comparatively. I can only hope that reliability holds up to the stuff I'm seeing in CR and JD Powers. If not, I guess I'll chalk it up to learning, head back to Toyota or Honda, and stay there...
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Re: narrowing it down [jski1] by smlpkg611
Apr 28, 2007 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 5:16 am)

I've test driven several smaller suv models. I thought I had it narrowed down to an Outlander. Started looking again and am almost sure I'll get a Sante Fe. I liked the Outlander's handling and exterior styling. We didn't like the flip foward seats and some of the interior quality. The carpeting is pieced in the second row. I want a sun/moonroof and power driver seat so I would have no choice but to get the leather option. The Sante Fe with the 3.3 is nice for the money and it handles well also. Add the rebate/lower interest rate and it becomes a pretty attractive sale. I'm not looking to spend a ton of money on a new car.
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Re: narrowing it down [smlpkg611] by blueiedgod
Apr 30, 2007 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: smlpkg611 (Apr 28, 2007 11:41 am)

I'm not looking to spend a ton of money on a new car.
 
Are you looking to spend a ton keeping a car then?
 
Purchase price is just part of the equation. Look for 5 year cost of ownership and the resale values if you are not going to keep it for over 10 years.
 
Gillete model was always to sell the handles for cheap, or give away, but charge a lot for cartridges. Same for inkjet printers.
 
Don't focus on just one part of the equation.
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Re: narrowing it down [blueiedgod] by stingray7868
Aug 02, 2007 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Apr 30, 2007 5:59 am)

I test drove the Hyundai Santa FE Limited and the Mitsubishi Outlander LS a few days back. In my opinion the Outlander was a much better ride, very smooth and the suspension was great, seats were very comfortable, very good driving position. Meanwhile the Hyundai felt sluggish and in the highway the seats were shaking somewhat, I mentioned this to the sales person, got another hyundai SF limited to drive and it felt the same way, I was not very impressed with the ride. The only thing that I did not like about the Outlander was those yellow instrumentation lights.
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SF is better in my estimation by skierbri10
Aug 26, 2007 (6:00 pm)
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Well, I cannot stand the dash in the Outlander, FUGLY....
 
As far as quality, my sister works very high up the food chain at Honda, when I told her that Hondas were too expensive for what you get, even the used ones. I told her that I was looking at the SF and she said that Hyundai makes great cars... I was like wow, why would you a ranking person at Honda tell me that. She said that really all of the car companies are very close on quality and reliablity. Also, that Hyundai will not have poor trade-in values for much longer. In 3 years by Hondas estimation Hyundais will only be 2-3% lower in trade-in than Honda. In 5 years it will probably be 0-1%. So all things considered Hyundais are no longer a risky buy. I figure that most people that go on message boards to bash a company have investments in competing companies, or they have other issues with that company. It's really sad actually, that some of you would waste your time posting negatives about Hyundai and have nothing to back it up with. Oh well to each their own...

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