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Honda CR-V, Hyundai Santa Fe, Car Comparisons, SUV
#2 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [stevecar]
Feb 05, 2007 (4:39 pm)
I am comparing the CRV-EX-4WD & Santa Fe SE also. I've owned 3 Honda cars since 2002 & had problems on all of them (failed transmissions, bad struts, tie rod ends, & a droning defect on my newest '06 Odyssey).
That being said, I am looking at other manufacturers including Nissan & Hyundai. IMO, the Toyota products are very boring and outdated.
I test drove both CRV & Santa FE...
1. Extremeley quiet on the highway compared to the CRV.
2. Nice exterior styling
1. The seat material on the Santa Fe seemed cheap and gets dirty easy. Many of the delaer's Santa Fe's had soil marks on the fabric.
2. Hyundai resale value not as good.
3. Throttle lag on acceleration.
4. Need expensive option packages to get basic features like steering wheel controls.
5. High MSRP for SE with Premium compared to CRV-EX.
1. Excellent Honda interior ergonomics, seat position, dash & control layout.
2. Reasonable MSRP
3. Good EPA gas mileage
4. Excellent resale value
5. Smooth Honda Engine & with great transmission reponse.
1. Ugly front end underbite
2. Road noise
3. Choppy Honda ride on highway.
If you do a lot of local driving the CRV is probably the winner unless you need a 3rd row seat. I am hesitant to buy a Hyundai yet...they need to establish a better residual value before I buy one.
#3 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [blackexv6]
Feb 05, 2007 (5:15 pm)
I just bought an 07 CRV, and I looked momentarily with at the Santa Fe. Three words made my look brief... reputation, reliability, and resale. Also, as a side note, I heard an NPR story where the CEO (or some higher up Hyundai executive) was in prison for something, and I was concerned about the long range health of the company.
#4 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [blackexv6]
Feb 05, 2007 (5:49 pm)
Thanks for your very insightful response. While the msrp pf the Hyundai is higher, with the $1000 rebate and dealers willing to deal, it isn't too big a difference.
I absolutely agree with you about the seats, lag, resale. You must get the SE for an even up on the EX.
Your pros on the crv really hit the nail on the head.
#5 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [stevecar]
Feb 05, 2007 (5:50 pm)
Thanks. You both have just saved me a lot of time.
#6 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [stevecar]
Feb 05, 2007 (6:34 pm)
Test drive both and see which one fits you best.
Personally I would pick the Santa Fe, it's more practical for my needs, and the 3rd row is actually comfortable, for once in a SUVs/crossovers. The build quality is fantastic and the vehicle is much enjoyable to drive with the elegant exterior/interior. It was a looker too during the time I test drove the car.
#7 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [brianjandreau]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 05, 2007 (6:39 pm)
The chairman's conviction has had an impact on Hyundai and may get worse as he tries to further reduce his sentence.
Hyundai Chairman Convicted (Inside Line)
#8 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [steve_]
Feb 06, 2007 (1:25 am)
Thanks for that link. I knew I heard something about that. I don't know why anyone would by a car from a company with such a dreary future. Honda's future looks very bright... of course anything could change.
#9 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [brianjandreau]
Feb 06, 2007 (9:14 am)
We shall see how things turn out. While it's unfortunate and this could have an impact on the bottom line, it's absurd to even suggest stop buying cars from a company that produces a competitive and quality lineup.
Good products speak and will sell themselves. Hyundai’s got a bright future, in the US and the world, as it continues to climb up the ladder (#6 largest automaker at current stage behind GM, Toyota, Ford, VW, and DCX). File these corruptions with the shareholders.
#10 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [joe97]
Feb 06, 2007 (9:43 am)
Perhaps your right... that the moral of the company won't suffer and that they'll produce quality vehicles. But I don't think it's absurd to suggest that people not buy cars from Hyuandai because of the corruption charges. The CEO of my former cable company was recently charged with the same crime, and this cable company was subsequently bought out by its competitor because it was about to go under.
Personally, I didn't like the Hyundais, and the news only solidified that for me.
#11 of 106 Re: Crv vs Sante Fe [brianjandreau]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 06, 2007 (3:44 pm)
Mitsubishi operated under a big cloud for years in the 90's for their major US sex discrimination case and followed that mess with an admission of hiding defects from regulators in Japan. The latter scandal almost sunk the company.
Lots of people (buyers and investors) do pay attention to that kind of stuff, even if much of it is just "perception."
In Hyundai's case, the damage to its reputation is also worldwide. The CEO sentencing negatively affected the stock of Kia as well as Hyundai. Forbes is covering the story and the various scenarios.
Honda was #14 overall in a recent Harris Interactive/Wall Street Journal ranking of the world's best and worst corporate reputations, beaten only by #9 Toyota among car companies. Microsoft was #1 (thanks in large part to Bill Gate's charitable efforts).