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#55 of 79 Re: residuals [mtnman1] by cdl44 Apr 04, 2008 (8:42 am)
Replying to: mtnman1 (Apr 04, 2008 5:47 am) High residuals are a good thing! You pay less over the term of your lease with the option to buy at the end vs. a car with a low residual where you pay a lot more money over the length of the lease but would have to fork over less at the end (because they car is worth less at that point). Why would you want to pay all that money up front for a car you might or might not buy in 3 years? If you have that extra money, put it in savings to earn interest and use it at the end of your lease. If you think you may want the car at the end of the 3 years vs a new car, you might be better off purchasing instead anyhow. Replies to this message: mtnman1 (Apr 04, 2008 5:57 pm)
#56 of 79 Re: residuals [mtnman1] by wlbrown9 Apr 04, 2008 (9:48 am)
Replying to: mtnman1 (Apr 01, 2008 6:32 am) Well, I have to call BS on the sales guy telling you they don't have as much markup. I checked Edmunds for both, Saturn Outlook XR with MSRP of 30670, invoice is -$1707. Checking the Acadia, one of the SLEs with list of $31K plus a little has invoice of $2065 less than MSRP. Checking incentives, both have $500 cash to customer. So, pay MSRP -$500 for the Saturn or deal on the Acadia with -$500 back, even if you only get down to invoice +$500 you are about $1200 less. I'm pretty sure that if you equip the Outlook and Acadia the same, the MSRP is within a few dollars.   So, if Saturn would deal, the Outlooks might be flying off the lots. Acadia would be a better buy for most people.   BTW, I have access to Supplier Discount through my wife's job, so the Saturn might be an option vs the Acadia for us since I think that discount brings the Outlook down closer. But for Joe off the street the take it or leave it price does not seem competitive, IMHO. Replies to this message: mtnman1 (Apr 04, 2008 6:04 pm)
#57 of 79 Re: residuals [cdl44] by mtnman1 Apr 04, 2008 (5:57 pm)
Replying to: cdl44 (Apr 04, 2008 8:42 am) I see your point, but the payments for the same priced Outlook with a 52% residual and a 3.29% rate like the Toyota dealer is offering me for a Highlander Limited would be almost the same as a 63% residual and a 6.25% rate that Saturn is offering I would think. I would like to have the option to purchase if I like the vehicle and don't want a high priced new vehicle since my youngest will be going out of state to College most likely in three years. Or I could purchase now at a 4.49% rate that most dealers are offering around my city. Thanks for the feedback. I very hesitant about leasing since I've never done it. I've always bought my cars new. This time I'm considering it because I bought a Mountaineer 4 years ago with a sticker price over $37,000 which I got for $33,800 plus $3K in rebates and my wife and I are already looking at buying a new one. Really when it comes down to it, it would not be the most sound financial decision I've ever made. We will probably in the end keep our current vehicle for 3 more years and buy something more practical.
#58 of 79 Re: residuals [wlbrown9] by mtnman1 Apr 04, 2008 (6:04 pm)
Replying to: wlbrown9 (Apr 04, 2008 9:48 am) If your wife has the supplier discount then you can use it to buy an Acadia as well, but the fact is in Columbus the only three Saturn dealerships are all owned by the same group and they will not haggle!!! The people that my company uses to do the haggling for us would not just tell me that they can't get a no haggle dealership to lower their price. The Salesman that I was dealing with at Saturn left or got fired because I know he was very upset that he couldn't make a deal with me because of their inability to haggle even on trade ins. I think my deal was the straw that broke the camels back with him. The salesman that I'm now dealing with told me he doesn't know for sure what happened, but he did tell the guy was growing increasingly frustrated with the dealerships policy of No Haggling and had crossed the line a few times recently when angry with management.
#59 of 79 Re: Saturn Outlook: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [kyfdx] by getgtpd Apr 28, 2008 (6:00 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 05, 2007 8:19 am) I drove every cross over on the market. I bought a Outlook XE fwd on friday april 25th. It has the power seat options, premium stereo/dual zone/rear air. Also got the dvd package, towing package, roof rails. sticker was 32,400, I purchased for $30000 plus tax. I got the 500 rebate offered and the 1000 current gm owner discount. The dealership SAturn of Wichita Ks. West was awesome to deal with!!!   I drove it on a 2hr trip yesterday, I LOVE IT!! The car is very quiet, excellent comfort and the stereo and dvd player are very good options.   I will put 50-60k on it over the next year, I'll try to keep updating my experiences as I go.   Good Luck!!
#60 of 79 Outlook buying experience, plus exchange by mandopickr May 31, 2008 (8:41 am)
I needed a 7+ seater, and decided on either the Acadia, or Outlook. I had never dealt w/Saturn, and hadn't bought a GM product in 25 yrs.   I went by the local Saturn dealership, and two local GMC dealers. THe first GMC dealer only had 5 Acadia's, all optioned out, all $35k or higher. The salesman was very helpful, said he would be happy to find me an Acadia optioned as I wanted. He didn't sound like he could approach the pricing by Saturn, however.   The second GMC dealer, man am I sorry I went by there. They had 10-15 Saturns, all optioned out, wanted to find me one right there, provided "I would promise to by the car from _____". It was a confusing mess. They had the free tires program, but they charge $999.99 to participate. When I challenged the salesman on this, she said it also included free towing for a year. I reminded here that the Onstar year trial also included a year free towing, she said I would get the $1000 back when I negotiated. Finally, when I gave her the number I was quoted from Saturn, she was sure they could beat it, but when I reminded the sales manager that would be out the door, the number I put on the check, he said it was pretty tight.Of course they called me constantly for the next few days.   Finally Saturn of Greenville (SC). Sales Associate was low pressure. I told him when I went it that I was going to look at the Acadia as well. He called once, to tell me they had a XE with the options I was looking for, and to call him back if I was interested. Everyone seemed as concerned about my being pleased with my purchase as much as they were interested in buying a car.   The postnote on this is after going off for the weeked, my wife and I decided we wanted to exchange up to the XR, and get away from the light gray carpet (beautiful, but may be a challenge to keep clean).   Upon calling the sales associate, he and I discussed what I needed to change, he had a XR on the lot, and advised me to drive it for the night. I went right over, and he had it ready to go. No papers to sign, just get it in and drive. When I came back the next morning to complete the paperwork, nothing was different from my first purchase. Everyone was friendly and warm, the salesman keep telling me how I was going to like some of the changes in the XR. The GM completed the paperwork. When I apologized for all the trouble I was putting them through, he told me that was part of the Saturn experience.   Obviously, I am a new Saturn owner, but I am impressed. Replies to this message: drwilsc (May 31, 2008 4:22 pm)
#61 of 79 Re: Outlook buying experience, plus exchange [mandopickr] by drwilsc May 31, 2008 (4:22 pm)
Replying to: mandopickr (May 31, 2008 8:41 am) Congratulations on your new Outlook! It appears to be a great vehicle that you will enjoy for many years. Heck, even Comsumer Reports likes it, and they are usually hard on GM cars.   I owned a couple S series cars in the 1990's, a 2000 LS2, and now a 2007 Saturn Aura XR. One of the reasons I have drifted back to Saturn over the years is that ownership experience. It goes well beyond the purchase of the car. It involves being treated right when it's time to bring the car in for service, or when something goes wrong with it. They always explain or even show you what is wrong with the car and I never get the feeling that they are trying to rip me off. They simply go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied, even if it's just trying to fix a little squeak that is annoying you. I am certain your experience will be just as pleasant.
#62 of 79 2008 XR Employee Price..bought one yesterday by wlbrown9 Aug 27, 2008 (8:31 am)
I have been wanting an Enclave/Acadia/Outlook for quite a while. Got more interested when the GM Employee pricing and $1500 rebate actually showed up as a little discount from what it seemed folks were paying earlier. Looked around and finally found the Outlook XR with Enhanced Convenience package, Convenience package, Premium Trim Package & Trailering package gave a little better equipped vehicle that I could find in the Enclave/Acadia. Looked around and found one in Memphis like that with 7 passenger package (Ocean Mist ext. Tan interior) and one 70 miles away with 8 passenger (Red Jewelcoat ext. Tan interior). Decided to go with the Ocean Mist...MSRP $35,525 - employee pricing $31,230 + $75 doc/processing fee and Tenn Sales tax. Dealer included mud flaps, paint - fabric protection package, 1 year oil change, rotation. Good experience and a good vehicle.   Picked it up last night and reset the average MPG when I hit the expressway. 55-70 mph for 12 or so miles until I hit my exit was showing 25.5 mpg. Another 5 miles home over city streets, then 20 to work this morning and the DIC is still at almost 22 mpg. If that holds up, that will be 4-5 mpg better than my '00 Trooper. I'm real happy with the Outlook so far.
#63 of 79 Price Increase by mtnman1 Nov 11, 2008 (1:39 pm)
What's the deal with GM raising the base price of the Outlook FWD XR by $3000 on the 2009 vs. 2008? In these difficult economic times with people tightening their belts why would they raise the price so much? Am I missing something? Replies to this message: emlebeth (Nov 12, 2008 11:22 am) wlbrown9 (Nov 13, 2008 10:47 am)
#64 of 79 Re: Price Increase [mtnman1] by emlebeth Nov 12, 2008 (11:22 am)
Replying to: mtnman1 (Nov 11, 2008 1:39 pm) On the 2009 XR heated leather seats and 7-passenger seating come standard. These were added options on the 2008. I'm sure that has something to do with the price increase. Replies to this message: wlbrown9 (Nov 13, 2008 10:47 am)

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