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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [mtnwestsienna]
by wlbrown9
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Jul 31, 2007 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: mtnwestsienna (Jul 30, 2007 9:02 pm)
Okay...AD fees are getting pretty high. I'm starting to think they should be handled like a destination fee, separate line item directly on the sticker and everyone pays the same. Only other way around this would be to work out an OTD price including everything. Don't give me a $xxx over invoice then pop out the Ad fee as an addition to the invoice.
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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [wlbrown9]
by kyfdx HOST
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Jul 31, 2007 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jul 31, 2007 10:00 am)
When you agree on paying $XXX over invoice, then invoice seems to be whatever the dealer wants it to be...
I like to make my offers in US Dollars...
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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [kyfdx]
by wlbrown9
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Jul 31, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 31, 2007 10:04 am)
Ok, to be more clear....I use Edmunds or other favorite site to calculate the basic invoice for a vehicle with certain options, then add in the destination and make an offer of $xxxxx which I see to be say invoice +$350, not "I will give you invoice +$xxx". Then they come back and indicate that with the AD fee that is below invoice...so, maybe it is and maybe it is not .
I can ignore or swallow a $200 Ad fee but $800-$900 is getting to be real money.
I'm thinking that the manufacturer should include those costs in the basic cost of the vehicle instead of adding it on as another 'item'.
I don't mean to start another war out here, but $800 Ad fees make me about as happy as $495 DOC fees.
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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [wlbrown9]
by kyfdx HOST
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Jul 31, 2007 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jul 31, 2007 1:41 pm)
Can't argue with that... 2% of MSRP is getting into serious money...
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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [wlbrown9]
by loach
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Jul 31, 2007 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jul 31, 2007 1:41 pm)
The manufacturer would say they have added it into the price of the vehicle in that it's included in MSRP. But most people are negotiating from invoice these days and that's where it gets foggy. The problem is the advertising fees are regional/local in nature. I have heard of ad fees on Acadias ranging everywhere from about $250 to $900+ depending on the dealer location. According to Edmunds, they usually range from about 1-2% of MSRP, so the numbers being posted on this board are not really out of line (assuming the person quoted $900+ is buying a loaded vehicle in a big advertising market). The fees seem to be higher in large metro areas and lower for rural dealers.
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08' Acadia
by max63
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Jul 31, 2007 (8:03 pm)
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Just bought an 08'Acadia with a sticker of $42,360 for $39,862 (Includes $500 conquest rebate), which is considered "invoice". Total ad fee was $832.50 which is added to the edmunds invoice. Did not put up a fuss due to the fact I got an 08'. Located in So. Cal.
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Re: Ad fees on '08 Acadia [loach]
by wlbrown9
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Aug 02, 2007 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: loach (Jul 31, 2007 1:59 pm)
I understand what you are getting at. Hum, say on the '07 Acadia SLT 1, spread between MSRP and invoice is $2,160. Room for Ad fees in that. Spread between TMV and invoice is only $552, about what the Ad fees seem to be running average. So, is net profit before holdback, volume incentives, etc. pretty much $0 after deducting the Ad fees (or adding them to base invoice). I'm glad I have not put out the million to buy a dealership and make minimal profit on a pretty poplar vehicle.
Now getting to the regional ad fees, with network advertising, satellite radio, internet, etc. I don't see any more difference in having national Ad fees that having national destination fees. Maybe it will eventually come to that, but I'm wondering if checking the smaller town, lower overhead dealers might be a good idea. I know they don't have the same volume, but if their overhead is much lower and they get hit with minimal Ad fees, then they might be able to have a lower net sales price than the high volume, high overhead, high Ad fee dealers in the 'big city'.
Hey, I've got it now...this is some of the 'new' math they started teaching after I got out of school...dang, my 40th high school reunion is just a couple of years from now.
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Re: GMC Acadia: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [kyfdx]
by sholland1
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Aug 04, 2007 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 05, 2007 9:15 am)
My neighbor works for an RV dealer and some one traded in their Acadia for an RV. It has 11,000 miles on it, silver, fully loaded, I mean every options available. He can sell it to me for $34,500 plus tax/tag/title. Is that a good deal?
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Acadia seat dimensions - can you help?
by stage
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Aug 04, 2007 (8:39 pm)
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I am looking at a 2008 Acadia SLT2 AWD with leather seats. Does anyone have the actual front seat dimensions? Would like to compare with my current autos. Thanks for the help.
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