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Whats up with Hyundai/Kia sales the last 2-3 months? - READ ONLY

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#28 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [nippononly] by geo9

Feb 27, 2007 (8:59 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Feb 27, 2007 8:47 pm)
FUNNY..............Touring the rental lot at hertz
TODAY in Daytona Beach I had several choices...
hyundai, hyundai, hyundai...............
 
UGH !.....I wanted a Ford Fusion or even a Mustang!
(For the deal price)
So I asked "can I upgrade and get a Lincoln, Grand
Marquis maybe even a Caddy"? NO DICE !!!!!!!!!
Not a GM car to be found !
No Hertz Collection cars avail. either..........
 
Oh well beats walking.... I will just swap cars with
mom and tool around in her Caddy !!!!!!!!

#29 of 37 Is it possible... by andre1969

Feb 28, 2007 (7:16 am)

that a lot of those fleet sales were artifically high? While there's always going to be a market for fleet vehicles, if the manufacturers are dumping these things into fleets at bargain-rate prices and overloading the market, it's possible that they're just turning around and selling the cars off of their fleets quicker than they normally would?

#30 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [geo9] by robertsmx

Feb 28, 2007 (8:50 am)

Replying to: geo9 (Feb 27, 2007 8:59 pm)
You're as unlikely to find a GM car at Hertz, as you are finding Ford at National where GM rules. But, Hyundai and Kia can easily be spotted at rental centers.

#31 of 37 Hyundai safety and such by fezo

Feb 28, 2007 (10:07 am)

I'm surprised with optional safety in the Accent. Disappointed as well.
 
I'm very impressed with the current generation Sonata which, indeed, seems to be aiming at Camry rather than the Accord.
 
Just as I hate folks that charge extra for antilock brakes and side air bags I feel the same way when stability control is an option. I won't buy a new car without it but am not selling the present cars to get it. Were I wealthier I would.
 
Classic dumb move using optional safety equipment - the Ford 500. If you load it with all that equipment that I maintain should be standard it is rated the safest car you can currently buy. Drop the side airbags and stability control and it falls down to the middle. I understand manufacturing costs and all but why would you give up the shot to put "safest car. period." in your advertising?

#32 of 37 Re: Safety equipment [nippononly] by joe97

Feb 28, 2007 (7:31 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Feb 27, 2007 7:41 pm)
I think it goes Aveo, Accent, then Yaris but you'd have to compare them based on similar equipment. Base price does not mean much if one is a more of a stripper version than the others.

#33 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [nippononly] by joe97

Feb 28, 2007 (7:51 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Feb 27, 2007 8:47 pm)
"When you talk about the safety equipment question, what is it that the base Accord does not have that Sonata does? If you are including stability control, then I will concede you the point. I was thinking of airbags and ABS."
 
Accord base vs. Sonata base (safety):
 
ESC, TC, EBD, active head restraints, brake assist, 5 stars NHTSA
 
"I have driven the new Accent (specifically, the GT)"
 
GT? There is not GT model. Maybe you meant the SE, now there is one of the exciting small car to drive, handling was great with the sport-tuned suspension and larger wheels.

#34 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [joe97] by nippononly

Mar 01, 2007 (8:59 am)

Replying to: joe97 (Feb 28, 2007 7:51 pm)
Thanks for the clarification - I have a neighbor with an Accent GT (the old model) and I must have confused the designations.
 
Yes, the SE is a fun little drive at a very reasonable price. Very sporty. Hyundai has taken the route of many other manufacturers, a route I fail to understand, of not making factory cruise even optional, even though almost every other feature imaginable in this segment is included standard on that trim.
 
As for the Accord, it has most everything you mentioned except the ESC, right? I am not sure of its crash ratings, but they must be pretty good as one of my friends bought one based almost solely on its crash ratings.

#35 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [nippononly] by joe97

Mar 01, 2007 (11:14 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Mar 01, 2007 8:59 am)
No, these are the features the base Accord do not have:
 
ESC, TC, EBD, active head restraints, brake assist, 5 stars NHTSA

#36 of 37 Re: Hyundai/Kia [joe97] by nippononly

Mar 01, 2007 (2:04 pm)

Replying to: joe97 (Mar 01, 2007 11:14 am)
Very interesting. Since this was relevant to me on a personal level, I went to go and see what was up with the Accord. And wow, you have to buy the Accord SE to get EBD and brake assist, I can't see active headrests anywhere even optionally, ESC and TC are packaged together and only come with the V-6s, and side impact is only four stars, front and rear.
 
An education indeed. I wonder how the '08 will fare when it is introduced this year. I wonder if Honda will make more of those things standard after it has been making such a song and dance about "safety for everyone".

#37 of 37 Re: Who IS getting the fleet sales? [robertsmx] by kdhspyder

Mar 01, 2007 (10:33 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Feb 08, 2007 12:16 pm)
I'm sure all automakers want to sell fewer cars to rental companies (or fleet in general). The number posted above are for first six months in 2006, and for a car that was redesigned not too long ago.
 
That's not always true. LIke everything else it depends on what the transaction price is. We sell all kinds of vehicles to local renatl places and even local Enterprise lots but at 'full sticker', meaning invoice, just as if any consumer were to buy say 10 Corollas.
 
As far as Toyota is concerned it's a full retail sale monetarily.
 
Also a lot has to do with which vehicle is being offered to the fleets. A Corolla now is a prime candidate for fleet sales because it's way way beyond its breakeven point. It's just a money machine.

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