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#85 of 132 Re: weird morning sound in new OBW 2.5i A [dfciii] by cfezza Aug 18, 2007 (6:18 pm)
Replying to: dfciii (Aug 12, 2007 6:54 pm) I too have a 08 2.5i Limited and experience the same symptoms when starting a cold engine. I brought it to the dealer left it over night and was told the same as you....."characteristic of PZEV." Replies to this message: paisan (Aug 18, 2007 7:39 pm) cptplt (Aug 19, 2007 8:19 am) dfciii (Aug 19, 2007 10:47 am)
#86 of 132 Re: weird morning sound in new OBW 2.5i A [cfezza] by paisan Aug 18, 2007 (7:39 pm)
Replying to: cfezza (Aug 18, 2007 6:18 pm) My guess is that the PZEV program in the ECU is causing this or the electrical air-pump that is used instead of a pre-cat.   -mike Replies to this message: cptplt (Aug 19, 2007 8:19 am) dfciii (Aug 19, 2007 10:47 am)
#87 of 132 Re: weird morning sound in new OBW 2.5i A [paisan] by cptplt Aug 19, 2007 (8:19 am)
Replying to: paisan (Aug 18, 2007 7:39 pm) how does this PZEV stuff work?? Replies to this message: dfciii (Aug 19, 2007 10:47 am)
#88 of 132 Re: weird morning sound in new OBW 2.5i A [cptplt] by dfciii Aug 19, 2007 (10:47 am)
Replying to: cptplt (Aug 19, 2007 8:19 am) PZEV stands for Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle. Basically what the dealer told me is that it would be healthier to breath the exhaust from our outback than to breathe the air in Los Angeles. He said Subaru sets the vehicles to run so lean that it does not give itself enough gasoline. He said that is part of the way they achieve PZEV. I told him that I live in a county in PA where emissions are not required and therefore I do not want a vehicles that runs like that.
#89 of 132 PZEV by cptplt Aug 19, 2007 (12:28 pm)
how did you get a PZEV if you live in a non PZEV state??? do you live near NY? how can you tell if a vehicle is PZEV? are people in PZEV states having similar problems with their Outbacks?? Replies to this message: paisan (Aug 19, 2007 8:19 pm) cptplt (Aug 20, 2007 8:25 pm)
#90 of 132 Re: PZEV [cptplt] by paisan Aug 19, 2007 (8:19 pm)
Replying to: cptplt (Aug 19, 2007 12:28 pm) I think all the Subies sold are PZEV or all the ones of a particular model. I don't think it's specific to one area.   -mike Replies to this message: cptplt (Aug 20, 2007 8:25 pm)
#91 of 132 Re: weird morning sound in new OBW 2.5i A [sheroo] by tedya Aug 20, 2007 (1:11 pm)
Replying to: sheroo (May 22, 2007 11:30 pm) I have a 2007 Legacy GT and I get the same weird noise right after it starts up. It goes away every time right after the RPMs wind down under 1500. I attribute this as a normal thing since it has done this since day 1.
#92 of 132 Re: PZEV [paisan] by cptplt Aug 20, 2007 (8:25 pm)
Replying to: paisan (Aug 19, 2007 8:19 pm) according to their brochure only the 2.5i can be PZEV not the turbo or H6 and cars101 shows a price differential between PZEV and non PZEV ones (200 bucks). since I can't get a hybrid, maybe I'll get a PZEV to be "green". I'm going to talk to the dealer in next day or two about it, I am finalizing an order for a 2.5iLtd to replace my 98 GT.
#93 of 132 cylinder 3 misfire by cptplt Aug 24, 2007 (7:14 pm)
98 Legacy running rough first thing in AM, CEL on, P0303, cylinder 3 misfire. 136K on car, had new plugs and wires at 120K. What could it be? Coil problem? Replies to this message: xwesx (Aug 26, 2007 9:22 am) ateixeira (Aug 27, 2007 12:50 pm) cptplt (Aug 27, 2007 6:15 pm)
#94 of 132 Re: cylinder 3 misfire [cptplt] by xwesx Aug 26, 2007 (9:22 am)
Replying to: cptplt (Aug 24, 2007 7:14 pm) Could be; could also be a fuel injector problem.

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