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#103 of 132 Re: The Plot Thickens [edbaseball] by paisan Jan 26, 2008 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: edbaseball (Jan 26, 2008 6:26 am) Tighten your alternator belt and/or replace the alternator, that sounds like the issue to me.   -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
#105 of 132 change fuel pump? help by dgarlepp Feb 24, 2008 (4:11 am)
Hi, I need to change the fuel pump in my friends 1995 Legacy wagon, I don't have the shop manuel. Is the fuel pump under the back seat, or do I have to take the gas tank out. I need to change the fuel filter too. Any tips would help. Thanks Dan Replies to this message: paisan (Feb 24, 2008 6:41 am)
#106 of 132 Re: change fuel pump? help [dgarlepp] by paisan Feb 24, 2008 (6:41 am)
Replying to: dgarlepp (Feb 24, 2008 4:11 am) Fuel filter is on the driver's side under the hood. It's a black canister with a bunch of hoses going into it.   For the fuel pump remove the back seat and then access the hatch on the passenger side of the car. The fuel pum assembly is located under there and lifts out. Fairly easy swap.   -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
#107 of 132 08 legacy by rallyfan Feb 25, 2008 (7:44 pm)
On the way for my first oil change the car would not start. It acted like the the battery was dead I tried to jump start it. I tried several times to no prevail I even had our company mechanic try; nothing, so he told me to take it out of park and put it in gear then back in park and it just started right up, but this that time without a jump. The dealer could not figure it out. Any help would be appreciate. Replies to this message: xwesx (Feb 26, 2008 9:05 am) despa (Sep 18, 2008 2:44 pm) lumingshih (Dec 29, 2008 8:50 am)
#108 of 132 08 legacy by rallyfan Feb 25, 2008 (8:03 pm)
I have a 08 Legacy PSEV and when I start it for the first time in the morning it is very loud shakes and rumbles. It quiets down after the engine warms up. My neighbors think it is very troubling. PS it is very loud. Thanks in advance Replies to this message: xwesx (Feb 26, 2008 9:09 am) tswitz (Jul 18, 2008 4:46 am)
#109 of 132 Re: 08 legacy [rallyfan] by xwesx Feb 26, 2008 (9:05 am)
Replying to: rallyfan (Feb 25, 2008 7:44 pm) Well, that sounds like the shift interlock did not engage for some reason the first time around. Unusual for sure; if it happens again, you should mention the shift interlock to the dealer and see if they will replace or inspect it for you.
#110 of 132 Re: 08 legacy [rallyfan] by xwesx Feb 26, 2008 (9:09 am)
Replying to: rallyfan (Feb 25, 2008 8:03 pm) There is a TSB available regarding cold-starts on the PZEV models. It does not mention anything about it being very loud, though. Below is the text of the TSB to which I refer, and a link to the site is here. In what part of the country do you live?   "This bulletin is for informational purposes only. If you encounter a customer complaint about an idle fluctuation (“hunting”) during cold starts which generally last about 20 to 30 seconds the cause is a combination of factors. Some of these are: • Fuel blends • Percentage of Ethanol content of the fuel being used • Temperature • Narrow operating range of the Air Fuel Ratio Sensor The main cause of this idle fluctuation is fuel related and not the vehicle. PZEV engines are designed to run on fuel blended for distribution within certain areas of the U.S. (such as the state of California). Fuels available in other markets, that may have adopted California emission standards, may be a slightly different blend. If you live in any other state than California, your vehicle will operate on gasoline meeting Federal specifications. However, PZEV vehicles may experience this issue especially during the summer months when summer blend fuels are distributed. There is no effect on vehicle emissions, and no short or long term damage will occur due to this issue. The condition may be reduced or eliminated by changing to a fuel that contains a lesser percentage or no Ethanol. Also, a light throttle application while the vehicle is exhibiting this condition will stabilize the idle. As we move towards cooler weather many areas of the country will be changing to a winter blend of fuel which may also alleviate the condition. If this condition is confirmed, no repair attempts should be performed beyond confirmation and checking all other systems are operating within design parameters." Replies to this message: tswitz (Jul 18, 2008 4:46 am)
#111 of 132 Re: 08 legacy [xwesx] by tswitz Jul 18, 2008 (4:46 am)
Replying to: xwesx (Feb 26, 2008 9:09 am) Very helpful TSB. Thanks for posting. We just took delivery on an '08 PZEV Legacy yesterday. Appreciate the input!   Tom
#112 of 132 Re: 08 legacy [rallyfan] by despa Sep 18, 2008 (2:44 pm)
Replying to: rallyfan (Feb 25, 2008 7:44 pm) rallyfan,   I have had this problem for the past 6 months or so. It was intermittent and really annoying. Finally, a dealership in Ohio found the problem, allegedly known by Subaru. They called it a "shift linkage" problem and described it as: "...the computer returns a message as the car is in gear hence it doesn't start when the key is turned in the ignition". If needed I can get more details from the dealership. Replies to this message: lumingshih (Dec 29, 2008 8:50 am)

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