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Subaru Outback/Legacy Starting Issues

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Re: won't start when warm [Chris15961] by xwesx
Dec 04, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: Chris15961 (Dec 03, 2008 5:00 pm)

Yeah, that is a tricky one.... Mine did this as well - for years. I always said that it was not an "errand" car, as you never knew when it was going to leave you sitting. My general rule for it was that if it failed to start after its normal 2-3 cranks, I would wait 5 minutes then try again. It would normally start the 3rd or 4th try (10-15 minutes of waiting), but sometimes would take as long as 30-40 minutes! That was okay during the summer, but very frustrating at -40F.
 
Ultimately, though, I ended up having the knock sensor go out. When that happened, I replaced the knock sensor and, on a whim, the crank and camshaft sensors at the same time. After that, I no longer had the cold start issues associated with the faulty knock sensor, but also had no more problems with the no-start situation. I have no idea whether doing this on yours would alleviate the problem for you or which sensor it was that may have actually been the root of the problem, but this was my experience.
 
Good luck - I know how frustrating it is, especially because it would not throw a code in the computer and therefore no shop was able/willing to diagnose it. I spent hundreds of dollars on shops trying to figure this one out before I finally gave up and decided to live with it. If I knew I was going to only be at a place for 30 minutes or less, I would usually leave the car running to avoid having to deal with it. Four years passed before the knock sensor issue finally came along and fixing it had the very happy side effect of eliminating the no-start problem.
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Re: won't start when warm [xwesx] by paisan
Dec 07, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 04, 2008 8:17 am)

Interesting, I have a similar problem on my dad's 95 Impreza L.
 
Cold starts are ok. Warm starts sometimes don't start. So far I've done battery, alternator, distributor pack, and the ignitor.
 
I will try the knock, and crank position sensors next
 
-mike
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Re: won't start when warm [paisan] by xwesx
Dec 08, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 07, 2008 11:17 am)

I know, this one is terribly frustrating. I hate throwing parts at a car with nothing more than a hope it will fix the problem.
 
I was having stall issues early in my ownership of it (September 2000) and same deal there - no codes, shops could not help. One of the shops suggested I try replacing the mass airflow sensor. I did (with a used one) and no more stall problems. Oddly, though, I knew someone last spring who had a '98 Impreza 2.5L with a bad MAS and the car would not run at all. I offered him my MAS, but with the disclaimer that the car could have intermittent stalling problems. He took it, and nearly insisted on paying for it (though I finally convinced him that we were doing each other favors by him just taking it ), and apparently it works fine for him.
 
I did recommend that he clean the sensor before installing it, but do not know whether he did so. I now wonder if that part was ever even bad.... ?
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by jenamae1
Dec 17, 2008 (10:53 am)
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hey i have a 99 subaru legacy sus and i tried to start it the other morning and all i got was a "click". so we tried to jump start it...no luck, so we thought well the battery is shot, so we got a new one, we tried to start it and still all i get is "click"
im starting to get irratated, i asked a few people, one said it might have 2 do with the security system and i have to reset it, one said something w the starter and the guy at the dealership in town said ummm idk just get it towed in and we will look at it
im a girl lol i need help
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Re: won't start when warm [xwesx] by Chris15961
Dec 18, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 08, 2008 4:39 pm)

thanks for the help. I changed the cam position sensor (knock was already changed) and so far st. anthony, crossing my fingers and the new sensor seems to be working. Its hard to drive with my fingers crossed but I'm going to take my chances...
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Re: won't start when warm [Chris15961] by xwesx
Dec 19, 2008 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: Chris15961 (Dec 18, 2008 3:03 am)

Well, at least you know that if it continues to be a problem, you *can* still get the car started. Wishing you luck on that one, I know what an incredible annoyance it is....
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Re: [jenamae1] by xwesx
Dec 19, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: jenamae1 (Dec 17, 2008 10:53 am)

The click! I am amazed that these problems still occur, even ten years removed from the build of the vehicles. I would have thought that owners would long ago have shot all the cars with this defect! Hahah.
 
So, from my experience, it is one of two things:
 
First, the easiest: The spot where the negative battery cable connects to the car is on the top, rear, driver side of the engine. It is a post that is mounted to the engine/starter by the bolt that secures the starter itself. Sometimes, this post can work itself ever so slightly loose, and, if this happens, the connection may not be good enough to allow the starter to draw enough power to crank the engine. The result? A click, or, sometimes, a click-click-click-click-click in series. Check that first - make sure the post is solid and the connections clean.
 
Second, the other culprit: The starter solenoid. Another easy fix, but slightly more complicated than the first, the solenoid is mounted on the inner (I think) side of the starter unit and is what engages the motor. If the solenoid is not working properly, it is going to just click once.
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starting problem by gailk
Dec 23, 2008 (7:16 am)
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I have an 01 Outback, love my car and have never had any problems until yesterday. It's been very cold here, as low as -20. After sitting 2 days I went out to start the car, just to make sure, started with first turn of the key. Warmed it up, moved it closer to the house shut it off. Two hours later went out to head to work and I got a turn over but no start. Didn't have time to fool with it so left it set borrowed a friends truck. Six hours later home again decided to give it a try and it started right up. Looking for something to take to a mechanic if necessary. Any ideas out there any help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: starting problem [gailk] by paisan
Dec 28, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: gailk (Dec 23, 2008 7:16 am)

Sounds like the battery. If it's the original one from 01, then it's well over due to be replaced. I just did that on my 04 Armada due to the same symptoms.
 
-mike
Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
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Re: 08 legacy [despa] by lumingshih
Dec 29, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: despa (Sep 18, 2008 2:44 pm)

Hi,
 i would appreciate if you could provide more information regarding:
I have had this problem for the past 6 months or so. It was intermittent and really annoying. Finally, a dealership in Ohio found the problem, allegedly known by Subaru. They called it a "shift linkage" problem and described it as: "...the computer returns a message as the car is in gear hence it doesn't start when the key is turned in the ignition". If needed I can get more details from the dealership.

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