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Mazda CX-9 Lease Questions

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Re: Our CX-9 Deal [smartshopper9] by jrldrive
Mar 13, 2007 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: smartshopper9 (Mar 12, 2007 5:44 pm)

Go to Edmunds.com They will show you the invoice and MSRP. When negoiating the lease, you have to first negotiate the price (the difference between MSRP and the negotiated price is the cap cost reduction). If you walk into a dealer and just ask for a lease price, they will calculate it based on the MSRP.
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Re: Our CX-9 Deal [smartshopper9] by amcdad
Mar 13, 2007 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: smartshopper9 (Mar 12, 2007 5:44 pm)

Any reputable dealer should be willing to share the residual and money factor with you- I confirmed from posts on this website.
 
When talking with sales, focus ONLY on the sales price. Edmunds has good information on how leasing works, but basically you are paying for the difference between the sales price and residual value, plus tax and interest and fees. The residual value and interest rate (money factor X 2400) are set by the bank/financial arm of the manufacturer. They are not negotiable, except that a dealer attempt to pad profit by offering different residual/interest rate values from the actual program should be rejected.
 
Once you are getting the proper residual/MF, your focus on the sales price brings down the total amount of your lease. Never accept MSRP, and look at the leasing and Prices Paid Boards to figure out what a fair sales price will be (these boards also list incentives, as does Consumer Reports new Car Buying Kit- some dealer incentives can be used on leases, some cannot).
 
For the CX-9, because it is new and "hot" (especially the GT with Nav)I have heard of dealers selling only at MSRP, and some willing to deal a few hundred over invoice. Shopping around helps a lot- I'd shoot for close to invoice, if you can get it (every market is different). There is currently a holdback on the CX-9 about 2%, I think), which means technically the dealer can sell under invoice and still make money. Few are willing to dip into the holdback right now- although you never know.
 
Anyways, once you decide you want the car, know what model/options, and have agreed on the right residual/MF- negotiate the sales price as if you were buying, then use the Edmunds or LeaseGuide calculator and determine where the payment should be. Find out what ALL the fees and taxes are also. Don't get sucked into a "monthly payment"discussion- you can impact payments by varying your up front money and lowering the sales price.
 
Hope this isn't too much info- not sure how experienced a leaser you are, but I hope tthis helps. BTW, if a dealer won't break down the lease and give you specs, you may want to go elsewhere.
 
Good luck.
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Re: lease deals [smartshopper9] by luv2nou2
Mar 14, 2007 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: smartshopper9 (Mar 09, 2007 10:30 am)

We just leased a GT AWD with Navigation/towing/bose audio and homelink rearview mirrow (msrp $39310) with 15,000 miles/year for $478.12 per month for 39 months. We traded in our 2005 Chrysler 300C (hemi) and had about $4000 equity in to throw our lease price down to $35000 and change. We thought we got a good deal? Anyone else have better luck?
 
This was with no money out of our pocket at lease signing. Also our security deposit and first month's payment was included in the agreement. Our dealership did not break our numbers down with us, so we were curious to see if we really did make a good deal?
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Re: Our CX-9 Deal [amcdad] by matthewjohns
Mar 14, 2007 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: amcdad (Mar 13, 2007 9:54 am)

Do the residuals/MF vary by the region you are in?
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Re: Our CX-9 Deal [matthewjohns] by amcdad
Mar 14, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: matthewjohns (Mar 14, 2007 3:30 am)

They can, but the numbers I was quoted in CT seem consistent with what others in other states have posted. I suspect it is a national program...maybe this board's Host can help?
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Re: Lease Question. [jrldrive] by Car_man HOST
Mar 15, 2007 (2:23 am)
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Replying to: jrldrive (Feb 17, 2007 5:05 pm)

Hi jrldrive. Mazda Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2007 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring FWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00137 and 50%, respectively.
 
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Re: Question for Car Man [suomi8] by Car_man HOST
Mar 15, 2007 (2:25 am)
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Replying to: suomi8 (Feb 18, 2007 12:20 pm)

You're very welcome, suomi8. Mazda Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2007 Mazda CX-9 GT AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00088 and 62%, respectively. The money factor for an otherwise identical lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be the same, but its residual value would be 2% higher.
 
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Re: Mazda CX9 [flino4] by Car_man HOST
Mar 15, 2007 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: flino4 (Feb 21, 2007 1:46 pm)

Hi Maria. The selling price that you were quoted for the CX-9 that you are interested in looks very attractive to me. The only problem that I have with this deal is the large down payment that you are being asked to make. Consumers can and should lease any vehicle that they are interested in without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction. Those who make one risk losing it if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered.
 
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Re: Lease deal on cx9 grand touring [matthewjohns] by Car_man HOST
Mar 15, 2007 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: matthewjohns (Mar 06, 2007 7:08 pm)

Hello matthewjohns. The money factor and residual value that you were quoted for the CX-9 that you are interested in are right in line with Mazda Credit's current lease program for it. So there is no money factor mark up going on in your deal. This truck's selling price is very good as well (it's nice to be able to purchase through the S-Plan isn't it ). This looks like a good deal to me. If you like the truck, go for it.
 
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Re: 27 months lease on Touring AWD [wishman68] by Car_man HOST
Mar 15, 2007 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: wishman68 (Mar 07, 2007 2:08 pm)

Greetings wishman68. $175 over dealer invoice is a very good price for a 2007 Mazda CX-9. Furthermore, the money factor and residual value that you were quoted are right in line with Mazda Credit's current lease program for this model. This is about as good as it is going to get on a CX-9 right now. If you like it, go for it.
 
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