Article Comments 2007 Lexus LS 460 L Follow-up Test

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Article comments for Follow-Up Test: 2007 Lexus LS 460 L - There's no sense in believing the 2007 Lexus LS 460 L should talk to you as you drive it, whispering about the romance of the road through the tingle in the steering wheel and the seat cushion. If you drop $80,000 on a big sedan, you don't want conversation; you want to be served. (more)

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#1 of 35 Article Comments 2007 Lexus LS 460 L Follow-up Test by KarenS HOST Feb 01, 2007 (11:41 am)
Come along on our 2007 Lexus 460 L follow up and tell us what you think. Follow-Up Test: 2007 Lexus LS 460 L
#2 of 35 I just don't understand by kipper215 Feb 01, 2007 (2:56 pm)
I went to the lexus website and they showed only two option packages for an extreme amount of money. So, I go the the lot and the dealer tries to itemize the options so the buyer won't have a heart attack when they see the pricing. I could never pay 80K for a toyota and that is exactly what this car is. This is a great car for grandpa, no matter how you look at it. the self parking feature has been around for awhile in Japan with the prius. Now they put it on a flagship car and try to make it like it's new technology to justify a premium. As a younger person with money to spend I would take a bimmer any day over this car is I was looking for something sporty. As far as luxury is concern everyone on the street with half a brain knows the MERC S550 is a show stopper. When you see the LS460 on the road you hardly notice the car. I am not saying the car is bad, but they need to do a reality check when it comes to the way they price their products. The mindsless loyalist will buy this car with no problem. I have driven the LS460, the 750Li, and the S550 and the LS460 feels clean and well put together. It does not give me the feel of luxury that Mercedes does. nor the feel of intelligence and sportiness the BMW gives you. The Kipper verdict is a C+ for this ride.
#3 of 35 vanity mirrors by daniel123 Feb 01, 2007 (3:44 pm)
those mirrors in the back seat are exactly like the ones my 1991 buick Park Avenue had.
#4 of 35 Lexus LS460L Follow-Up Test by ardnalee Feb 03, 2007 (3:57 pm)
It's a bloated, gimmick-laden Camry, and just as lacking in character and originality. Toyota won't be able to sell enough of the things.
#5 of 35 Off topic by hendjaz Feb 03, 2007 (7:29 pm)
"Toyota won't be able to sell enough of the things." Check the numbers. Lexus sold over 3000 of the LS 460 in January alone. Any other competitor close to that last month? Not even close. The Edmonds follow up article, which this thread is supposed to be about was nicely done and certainly more on point than the initial review of the SWB version. Motorweek gave the 460L a great review this past week. Replies to this message: kipper215 (Feb 04, 2007 10:15 am)
#6 of 35 Re: Off topic [hendjaz] by kipper215 Feb 04, 2007 (10:15 am)
Replying to: hendjaz (Feb 03, 2007 7:29 pm) I hate to tell you, but motorweek will give a trash can with skateboard wheels a good review. It's an informational show. They don't want to make the manufacturer mad and miss out on getting cars to use in their show. On another note, selling 3000 units in January alone goes back to what i said about mindless loyalty. This car is sooo understated that it should have a Toyota badge instead of a lexus badge. an example: look at the seats in the LS460, mercedes S550 and the 750Li. the lexus seats are comfortable just like the seats in a toyota avalon, but if you look closer do you see any detail in the design of the seat? Now look at the seat the S550 and you will notice lots of detail and charcater in the seats and the same goes for BMW. Look at the interior of the Audi A8 and it's like looking at art. the lexus is a well made car, but it's plain jane. Some people like their cars that way, but if you are going to spend that kind of money on a car I would want to see more than a reclining back seat (like the scion Tc), a clunky looking audio system, and usless self parking( woe ethel look at this, my old buick couldn't do this).
#7 of 35 Brake performance by mikeivan Feb 04, 2007 (10:59 am)
136 feet for 60 to zero is unacceptable for a car of this cost. Lexus should put those bigger brakes on all the 460's not just the touring package.
#8 of 35 LS 460 Sales Success by hendjaz Feb 04, 2007 (11:40 am)
The Edmunds/Inside Line follow up analysis points out that the LS 460L has a “luscious interior”, that the car “makes life easier”, is an “ideal luxury sedan companion” and is the fastest extended length luxury sedan. All of which may contribute to the fact that the new Lexus LS is quickly the sales leader by a wide margin over its competitors, the Mercedes S, BMW 7 and Audi A8 series. January 07 sales for the four luxury brands: Lexus LS 460 – 3006 Mercedes S Series – 2078 BMW 7 Series – 1007 (down from 1466 Jan. 06) Audi A8 – 305 (down from 516 Jan. 06) Another huge factor that is influential to all car buyers is the predicted reliability of the cars. Consumer Reports ranks 23 luxury sedans for their predicted reliability based on most recent models analyzed (the LS and S are new models). The reliability rankings for these four luxury sedans are: LS = 1, A8= 14, 7= 18, S =22. Ranking of 1 is best and 23 is worst reliability. These are the facts. Others may have opinions, to which we are all of course entitled. Replies to this message: 1487 (Feb 05, 2007 7:26 am) kipper215 (Feb 05, 2007 7:58 am) konocar400h (Feb 15, 2007 6:29 pm) pat (Feb 16, 2007 5:31 am) knowspinzone (Mar 06, 2007 7:18 pm) 150mphclub (May 02, 2007 11:12 am)
#9 of 35 Re: LS 460 Sales Success [hendjaz] by 1487 Feb 05, 2007 (7:26 am)
Replying to: hendjaz (Feb 04, 2007 11:40 am) the LS is also brand new while the 7 series is basically 5 years old. The S550 is newer, but not as new as the LS. The A8 has always been low volume and will never come close to the sales of the others. The LS will be snapped up for a while because the old car was more or less unchanged for a number of years and this car was highly anticipated. They will not be sustaining that 3k per month pace.
#10 of 35 Re: LS 460 Sales Success [hendjaz] by kipper215 Feb 05, 2007 (7:58 am)
Replying to: hendjaz (Feb 04, 2007 11:40 am) lets really look closer at reliability. it doesn't matter if somethings breaks or malfunctions on the car, it's about what happens after that. When you buy a BMW you major expense is gas and tires. if you opt for the extended maint. package the car is covered for 6 years or 100,000 miles. that's maint. too bro. Lexus does not do that. that is why BMW has the best resale value in the luxury car segment. BMW backs their product better than any other manufacturer. it may cost a little more money, but you feel confident in buying the car because you know it's covered. oil changes, brakes, even wiper blades. Lexus does not do that. you also have to understand that BMW and MERC do not focus on selling the S550 and the 750Li for it's the smaller cars that most people can afford. it's not that the S550 and 750Li are bad cars, you have to be well established to buy those kind of cars. not so with a LS460, at 61K that puts the car in league with the BMW 550i and the merc E550, which both of those cars are way more fun to drive. I bet those to cars sell more than the ls460. just something else to think about. Replies to this message: konocar400h (Feb 15, 2007 6:29 pm) pat (Feb 16, 2007 5:31 am) knowspinzone (Mar 06, 2007 7:18 pm) 150mphclub (May 02, 2007 11:12 am)