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Jeep Wrangler Transmission Trouble

164 messages,  Last post on Oct 30, 2009 at 6:42 AM

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Re: 5th Gear Burned Out? [ebess] by mac24
Feb 11, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: ebess (Feb 11, 2009 7:14 am)

Have I burned the gear up or is there a possibility it's something else?
 
Whatever happened, it can't be fixed without removing and dismantling the transmission.
If there's no additional noise from the transmission the cost of parts will likely be minimal, but the labor cost will be the same whatever the cause.
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Stuck in neutral by hank25
Feb 14, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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My son drives a 95 wrangler 4 cylinder 5 speed. When leaving work the other night he said he had trouble getting it to shift out of second gear. When it did come out, he said it "popped" out and now it is stuck in neutral and will not go into any gear. Any idea what the problem might be? Now he is driving his mothers car to work and she's not happy!
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Re: Stuck in neutral [hank25] by mac24
Feb 15, 2009 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: hank25 (Feb 14, 2009 3:28 pm)

Like the previous one, if it's a transmission problem then the transmission will have to be removed to fix it.
 
However, it's possible that it's a clutch problem, with the clutch not disengaging.
Will it go into any gear with the engine off?
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Re: Stuck in neutral [hank25] by nomad443
Feb 15, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: hank25 (Feb 14, 2009 3:28 pm)

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Since I am not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, I have no idea other than pulling the tranny and having it checked out. I'm still hoping that someone can give me a good guess as to what's causing the noisy vibration when the clutch is engaged. I've been told by two service managers that it's nothing more than the gears meshing and that even new ones do it. My question to Chrysler would be "IS THIS JEEP QUALITY????" I had the ring & pinion replaced at 24,000. Thank God the used car dealer paid for that. Good luck with your son's problem.
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Re: Stuck in neutral [mac24] by nomad443
Feb 15, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Feb 15, 2009 7:16 am)

mac24,
 
Tried what you suggested. It will go into any gear with the engine OFF. If it is just the gears meshing, it's just disconcerting that a vehicle with 27,000 miles (now) would seem to be such poor quality and makes all this vibration noise. Gee, having grown up in the muscle car era and having owned 3 GTOs, a 455 T/A, and a '64 Corvette, none of these cars ever had this problem.
 
Thanks again for your help.
nomad443
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Re: Stuck in neutral [nomad443] by mac24
Feb 15, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: nomad443 (Feb 15, 2009 12:38 pm)

Tried what you suggested. It will go into any gear with the engine OFF.
 
Hi nomad443,
 
I was actually replying to post #124 by hank25. Looking at your original post #115, it sounds like the classic symptom of a bad transmission bearing, probably the one on the input shaft.
When the clutch pedal is depressed the input shaft is disconnected from the engine and stops turning. However, whether it's the bearing or the gear itself, the transmission has to come out to examine and replace it.
 
Two points, if 'they all do that' challenge the service manager to demonstrate it to you on a new Wrangler; and I'd question how gentle the first 24K miles were if one of the axles required a new r&p.
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Re: Stuck in neutral [mac24] by hank25
Feb 15, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Feb 15, 2009 7:16 am)

No. even when the engine is not running it still will not go in gear. It does go side to side like it should but not front or back into gear.
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Re: Stuck in neutral [mac24] by nomad443
Feb 15, 2009 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Feb 15, 2009 1:58 pm)

mac24,
 
Thanks for your input. I'm going to visit our 2 reputable 4-wheel shops in my area and run your diagnosis past them before I visit the Jeep dealer service manager who gave me the gear-meshing bull. You sound pretty much like you know what you're talking about, so what is your experience with Jeeps, if you don't mind telling me? I'll probably refer to you in my discussions. Don't really need your name. Probably mentioning Edmunds will suffice. Thanks again for your help. Sounds like I might need to put out some serious bucks.
 
nomad443
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Re: Stuck in neutral [hank25] by hank25
Feb 16, 2009 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: hank25 (Feb 15, 2009 3:17 pm)

I had another guy that works on transmissions tell me that it sounds like the synchronizers went out on it. He said I'd probably be better off just finding another transmission.
#132 of 164
by mac24
Feb 16, 2009 (8:08 am)
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I had another guy that works on transmissions tell me that it sounds like the synchronizers went out on it.
 
The synchronizer rings, or synchros as they are often called, grab the spinning gears and allow then to match speeds so that they can mesh smoothly as you change from one gear to another.
 
The syncros have no effect when the gears are stationary, so whether they're good or bad it'll make no difference to gear selection with the engine off.
It's also highly unlikely that the syncros would fail on all the gears at the same time.
 
Your transmission should be an AX5. If you can get another one that's in good condition, great. If you get one that's worn though, you're back to square one.

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