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150 messages, Last post on Oct 08, 2009 at 7:37 AM
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| at an '08 escape. it has enough features that i won't rule it out. the drivetrain does dampen my enthusiasm, though. | |
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Its tried and true. Parts are plentiful. Everyone knows how to work on that engine. The Engine can trace back to the Duratec 2.5L introduced for the 1994 European Ford Mondeo. This engine was named a Wards Automotive 10Best 4 times. The bored out 3.0 version was introduced in 1996 and different version offered on everything for the Taurus to the Jag X-type to Noble M400 Brit supercar. The trans. is the Ford CD4E transmission which was introduced for the 4 cylinder 1994 Mazda 626. Ford upgraded the design in 1996 and 1998. Other than problems with the initial few model years, the Trans seems to be problem free. Tow package is recommended for the additional trans oil cooler. Mark.
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Replying to: mschmal (Mar 30, 2007 10:08 am) i read a rumor of a 'performance improved' 30dt being introduced before the 6 speed. heard anything about that? btw, we have an '04 escape limited, so i am familiar with the current drivetrain. |
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I've been intensively shopping for an SUV and the Escape is on my short list. A few things I'd like to note after reading some previous emails: There is no "locking" feature for AWD. It's electronic. Outlander allows you to be only in 2WD, or 2WD with the auto feature, or AWD locked in. The Santa Fe AWD is electronic but you can over-ride it and lock it as well. The Escape cannot be locked (to the best of my knowledge). The rear drum brakes of the Escape bother me. I have a 97 Explore with 4 wheel disc and to go back to drum.....CRAZY. I do most of my repairs and replacing disk breaks can be done with your eyes closed. Drum are not so easy and more time consuming. The Escape has a nice quiet interior and comfortable ride but power is not up to par nor is breaking. With all that said, I very well may go with the Escape even though I am still looking at the Santa Fe and Outlander (may look at the VUE as well). I just wanted to pass that along. Oh-the "08" Hybrid does have rear disk but no electronic stabilization like the non-Hybrids have standard? Another bad call. I'd love to wait a few more years for the Escape to catch up but my Explorer at 170K needs work and I don't want to put any $$$ in it at this point. |
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 9:57 am) As I stated previously, the Escape does not have a locked in switch because the system does not need one. The Santa Fe and Outlander do not use the fast acting electronic clutch that the Escape uses. The Escape can engage AWD within the blink of an eye. Quicker than you could reach over to flip a switch. "The rear drum brakes of the Escape bother me. I have a 97 Explore with 4 wheel disc and to go back to drum.....CRAZY. I do most of my repairs and replacing disk breaks can be done with your eyes closed. Drum are not so easy and more time consuming." Funny, most shops charge LESS for drum brake service because the can be serviced faster. Perhaps you missed your true calling as a brake tech. Notwithstanding same, Ford claims these drums are capable of the the same performance as the previous discs. Funny how we easily accept that today's 4 cylinder engine can out perform a typical 6 cylinder of the 1990s and the typical 8 cylinder of the 1980s; yet, we question the ability of anyone to improve on the drum brake? "The Escape has a nice quiet interior and comfortable ride but power is not up to par nor is breaking." I would think that BREAKING less than the competition would be a good thing. As for braking, are you assuming Escape does not brake as well as the competition or is there a comparison test you can point us to. Mark.
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 9:57 am) Yeah, but on my minivan I'm on my 3rd set of front pads and rotors, but still have the original rear brakes at 117,000 miles. My Outback has rear discs and they have a parking brake drum in the rear discs - not sure how much fun that's going to be to tackle. Rear discs is almost more of a deal killer for me than rear drums would be. 
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I just discovered that the base Mariner can only be had with a manual driver's seat. a >$25,000 vehicle with a manual drivers seat! Ford is so screwed up sometimes. Is anyone there talking to anyone else? Do the product planers EVER GET OUT OF THE "GLASS HOUSE". $19,995 Fusion SE has a power driver's seat. Why on earth would someone pay $25,000+ for a vehicle without a power drivers seat? WHY ESPECIALLY when it is still standard on the Escape XLT? Sometimes I almost think Ford deserves to go bankrupt. Mark. |
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Replying to: mschmal (Apr 10, 2007 10:07 am) And hey how fast is the "blink of an eye"? Pretty fast eh? Maybe I should go to my dealer tomorrow and say I hear that Escape switches into AWD faster than the blink of an eye-I'll take one and if it's any slower I want my money back. Mark-this is a FORUM not an exam or an article in a magazine. So what if my spelling isn't perfect? And so what if what I say goes against what Ford claims? Buying a car isn't about what a manufacture claims-it's about real people, asking real questions and finding out for themselves. Don't ruin a good thing-keep your anger to yourself or find another Forum to scrutinize and spell check. How many words can you find misspelled in this post? Waaaaaaaaa!
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 5:20 pm) I suggest we drop this line or someone will be tempted to start grammar checks. At least you guys use punctuation and don't type in ALL CAPS! tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper |
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Replying to: jski1 (Apr 10, 2007 5:20 pm) In a word, it is fantastic, transparent, seamless, etc. etc. Okay, more than one word. I recently sold my 05 Tribute i, AWD, 5 speed manual trans. I'm that way....loved it, but wanted to try a Prius. I figured I'd go for an 08 this coming winter, but have now found that I cannot get the 5 speed manual with the AWD now. Such a shame, since it was the best balanced configuration. Maybe the front wheel drive with traction control will be okay. I'll give one a try when the time comes. |
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