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Re: Legacy GT Engine Issues [greasefire] by xwesx
May 15, 2009 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: greasefire (May 15, 2009 9:37 am)

Talk about sour luck! Whoa! You were not kidding when you said, "yakamatsu."
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Re: Legacy GT Engine Issues [greasefire] by ateixeira
May 15, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: greasefire (May 15, 2009 9:37 am)

Too late to call it a lemon, that's first year only.
 
At least the dealer seems to be trying.
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Re: Legacy GT Engine Issues [ateixeira] by greasefire
May 15, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 15, 2009 11:46 am)

Yes the dealer is trying and SOA is involved from a consumer affairs perspective. While this might not be a lemon law issue there are still options as a consumer. I have filed a K35 for with my local DMV and have the regional manager from SOA involved. I will post the out come for anyone having similar issues. I will say the service manager has been great as far as updates and general customer service.
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Joe by jake68
May 17, 2009 (10:27 am)
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OK, I have a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT 2.5 Limited. Great car, Lots of fun to drive. It has 54000 miles on it and for the last 5000 or so the Check engine light keeps coming on. I used the OBD reader and the code is 0304, misfire in cylinder # 4. I want to swap the coil with cylinder #2 to check if that's the problem. However, I don't know whick cylinder is #4. I even bought a service manual. It shows a block diagram of the engine and list the cylinder # for each one. BUT, it doesn't give any indication of the orientation of the diagram??? If I assume the top of the diagram is the back of the car then Cylinder # 4 is on the Divers side front. If I assume the opposite orientation cylinder # 4 is on the passenger side rear.
 
Which one is it? Can anyone tell me which one is cylinder # 4?
 
Thanks,
Joe
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Re: Joe [jake68] by jake68
May 17, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: jake68 (May 17, 2009 10:27 am)

Oooops! Make that, If I assume the top of the diagram is the back of the engine compartment, then cylinder # 4 is Drivers side rear and if I assume the opposite Orientation it would be Passenger side front. Sorry About that.
 
Thanks,
Joe
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Re: Joe [jake68] by jake68
May 17, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: jake68 (May 17, 2009 10:27 am)

OK, I found it. Cylinder # 4 is drivers side rear (closest to the firewall).
 
Now I have another question. I've unbolted the 2 coil packs but they won't pull off. I also can't get the wire to unplug from it. It looks like it clips to the coil but I can't see it well enough to se how it unclips and I don't want to force it.
 
Does anyone have any ideas on how the clip works?
 
Thanks,
Joe
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Legacy 2.5 GT manual possible purchase ???s by sbcvulcan
May 18, 2009 (6:38 am)
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I am looking at one Legacy 2.5 GT in particular and I have some questions. Looking at a turbo, would be first one I owned.
 
Some questions
 
1. Is an 05 with only 25k miles and two owners. I find that suspicious, do you?
 
2. Has been brought in three times with service from the 20k to 25k mile mark for Engine/powertrain computer/module check. Is this an indication of a problem? I saw this on carfax report
 
3. The battery was xchanged in 2007, rather early for an original 05 car?
 
4. The car whines on acceleration aside from the whoosh of the turbo. Is this an expected sound with this car. The automatic trans turbo was not loud like this manual i tried, although obviosuly I am revving much more.
 
5. Is there any reason to get one transmission over the other in thsi model?
 
Any opinions, answers to some or all is appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Legacy 2.5 GT manual possible purchase ???s [sbcvulcan] by xwesx
May 18, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: sbcvulcan (May 18, 2009 6:38 am)

1. Difficult to say. Can you determine length of ownership in either case? If the first ownership was long and the second extremely short (encompassing the 20-25K period when the shop visits occurred), that may be indicative of a systemic problem. And, given it is still under 5 year / 60K powertrain warranty, Subaru may have deemed such a problem to be owner-error and therefore not covered under warranty.
 
2. Again, hard to say. Obviously, there was some sort of problem or concern, but without seeing the tickets, what is it? Different things, recurring, etc?
 
3. Subaru batteries are weak. Depending on the climate, I think replacing the stock battery after two years is about right. I would replace mine much sooner to hedge my bets against being stranded somewhere when it is really cold....
 
I cannot comment on concerns 4 and 5.
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Re: Joe [jake68] by ateixeira
May 18, 2009 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: jake68 (May 17, 2009 12:03 pm)

My 98 Forester only had one coil pack, that's interesting.
 
Any how, the electrical connections usually have a locking retainer you have to push in to slide the connection out. Try a light and maybe a mirror, too.
 
While I'm at it - here's a great purchase - I got a "headlight" that I can wear as a head band, so the light aims wherever I look, that was the BEST purchase I have made in terms of tools in a decade. I love it. Use it ALL the time. I strongly recommend one.
 
It's smaller than this but you get the idea:
 

 
That plus a mirror and you should see it.
 
Good luck.
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Re: Legacy 2.5 GT manual possible purchase ???s [sbcvulcan] by ateixeira
May 18, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: sbcvulcan (May 18, 2009 6:38 am)

My 2 cents' worth...
 
1. Yes a little suspicious. Guy buys it, totals it, sells it to his brother in another state, good luck tracking the wreckage.
 
2. Again, yes, because combined with the low miles it means this car has not been healthy most of its life.
 
3. A little early, could be another symptom of a car parked due to not running properly.
 
4. Yikes. Diffs, trans gears, AWD, who knows. Run don't walk.
 
5. Manual is the perfect match for the turbo, IMHO.
 
I'd pass, seriously, this one has red flags all over it. The 2010s are coming out so people will be trading up, leaving plenty of good used ones for purchase.

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