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#348 of 408 2004 pilot tranny problem
Jun 16, 2012 (3:39 pm)
I bought my used 2004 Honda Pilot with 59000 miles on it about 3 months ago. I thought it worked great when I bought it. A few weeks after I purchased the car it started to idle roughly and even died a couple of times. In addition it would shudder and not responds to gas at lower speeds. It would also down shift in jolting way intermittently.
Anyway I have brought it to the dealer and 2 other mechanics and they have replaced the idle control valve twice, MAP sensor, air flow meter, cleaned the egr valve, valve adjustment, new spark plugs, transmission fluid change, new battery, new coolant and thermostat. The car has this problem intermittently.
Finally a local honda mechanic figured it out today. He says that the torque converter is bad and that it would be 1700 to fix it. I'm wondering if this will actually fix the problem. Is it better to get the whole tranny replaced or is the torque converter by itself fine.
This car does have a recall on the transmission and a oil heat shield was put in at 2200 miles. Does anyone one know if the torque converter is related to the recall problem.
#349 of 408 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [manusrf]
Jun 18, 2012 (3:47 am)
I am not a mechanic but have read many posts on the problem and yes, I thought the converter was a huge part of the problem. If I remember correctly, you can check out the statement Acura made in regards to their tranny's and see that the converter was also included in the fix. Someone posted a pic. of the information on this site. If I can find it, I will repost it here for you to read.
Are you saying that you are under the recall for Honda's transmission? And, the tranny was replaced at 2200 miles or just the heat shield was replaced?
If so, could you help the rest of us that are not in the recall to understand just what they will do for you? Maybe post some of the recall paperwork. It would be helpful to see the language and just how they address the situation. Many of us have the exact same problem, but are outside the VIN numbers for the recall. Thanks.
As for your problem being intermittent, that seems to be most folks beginning problem which escalates from there - sometimes quite quickly.
#350 of 408 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [campkapala]
Jun 26, 2012 (9:41 pm)
At 2200 miles the heat shield was installed. The problem is getting the dealer to admit that the torque converter is bad. When I brought the car to the dealer in the past they wanted to do a valve adjustment and did not think it was the torque converter.
It took 3 honda mechanics to diagnose it as the torque converter. I'm still stuck with the car and continue to drive it. I'm still not sure if I should go ahead and replace the torque converter or if the whole tranny needs to be replaced. Also considering trading it in.
#351 of 408 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [manusrf]
Jun 27, 2012 (4:04 am)
So far, my problem is not regular. That makes it hard for me to show my mechanic what I am talking about and gives room for the Honda mechanics to make other excuses. From reading the posts, I know exactly what is wrong and the end result. I am just not certain how long I have until it quits shifting altogether. I still have not found that Acura statement but I believe they replaced the convertor and transmission if the car was over a certain mileage. My mechanic puts Shudder Fix in on a regular basis but that is just really only a "bandaid" in my opinion. When they drive my car, it does not have the shutter. I think it is because it has more of a problem on a slow acceleration shift. If you "punch it", it doesn't seem to shutter. When does your car have the problem?
#353 of 408 Re: Transmission problems '03 Pilot [aatlant]
Jun 27, 2012 (9:46 pm)
I was wondering what the outcome was for this situation. I was just told today I need some work done that should have been caught when I complained about it over 20K miles ago! Grrr!
#354 of 408 Re: 2004 pilot tranny problem [campkapala]
Jun 28, 2012 (10:47 pm)
It seems to mostly happen between 1000-2000 RPM. But the engine tends to rev up and down at idle too. I have it at another dealer right now but they are saying it's not the torque converter. Funny thing is that they don't know what it is. They think it may be the computer. I still think it's the torque converter.
Jul 05, 2012 (12:30 pm)
I had my trans replaced over 2 years ago. Since then, I've had the Flashing D. It comes and goes, never consistent. a few months after the replacement (AAMCO), I drove it in with the Flashing D. No erro codes and no issues with the Pilot, just an annoting Flashing D. I'd been close to 2 years and the trans seems fine except for a slight "jerk" at 35-40. From what I read, do you think changing the 3 and 4th presuure switch would fix the Flashing D? It seems like it from most of the messages (other than new/rebuild trans). Any thoughts?
Oct 15, 2012 (8:16 pm)
Sounds like i'm late to the party. My wife bought a 2003 Pilot about 2 months ago used. The car seemed to be in great shape with only 97K. I thought she did ok. about 2 weeks after she got it I noticed a funny/slow 2-3 shift. It seemed to be ok sometimes but has gotten worse in the last few weeks. I'm extremely angry sense we just started paying for this car and are on a very tight budget with a baby on the way. She got the car with the thought of it being a Honda we'd had many years of trouble free use. I can not afford to replace the transmission. I'm taking it in Thursday to have the trans serviced/flushed to see if that will correct it but from what I just read things aren't looking promising.